If you're not in the habit...

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Originally posted by A face
Program is not over the top with adverts and the ones that are there are tastfully done.

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are you still on about that redfm ad face? ;)

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Originally posted by NorthoftheLee

1. the stats and fiqures page (not the fiqures bit from the last issue) someone needs to get a bit of layout going here even if it means using 2 pages.... the table colours are terrible....just an idea from the pats program, they have a guide to every match as in who started, came on as sub, booked scored etc....might be worth while.....

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The Donie Forde's memory might be better than mine here, but as far as i can remember when they had said stats page in the programme before there were plenty of complaints from fellas on here :rolleyes:

the stats page could do with a bit of a make-over alright though

the only real problem that i have with the programme/magazine is the size. as the saying goes 'less is more' ;)

Northof thats a great idea about the Diary,Brian McClair used to do one for MUFC a few yrs back and it was class,BTW Muppet;Program is the US version.Programme is the British/Irish version:D

A few of ye have mentioned the size so I'll give my take on it.
At the start of the season when I first heard about the new Match Day Magazine being A4 size I wasn't too happy about it but over the last few months I've gotten used to it and now I can safely say that I much prefer the A4 size.

As for the interviews with players, an interesting thing that Chelsea have in their programme is a regular column for the team captain, something like that would be good. Also a profile on a player or interview with a player every issue would not go astray.

It'd be cheaper to do as a5...donie, perhaps you should put a questionnaire in the next one and see what every1 thinks as this isn't the broder market

i haven't seen the new programme but there is NO WAY i would buy an A4 size programme.

i was in Stamford Bridge a few months back and the programme was A5 and VERY thick.

lots of stuff in it and it fits in your pocket. what more would you want?

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Outside of the first issue(which did concentrate alot on a certain persons arrival at the club), all the other issues(4) have carried a feature(s) on players.
Erika Twomey has done a number of the up and coming players who mightn't get the same media coverage as, lets say JOF or Georgie. All the players can't be covered in one issue!

Also, if you could find a player to volunteer a regular column, i'd be very interested. Regarding Chelsea's captains piece, I would be afraid that that would only mirror alot of what the Chairmans, managers and Commercial scene, pieces would already have covered.

In some respects its a form of praise that City Edition is compared to English programmes. At the same time if someone came on this forum and started comparing LOI to Premiership he'd be told where to go!

All suggestions are being noted, although I'm curious about the Peter Goulding article mentioned earlier. Which issue was that?

It's a good point. Ours is a5 and we have to include a certain number of ads, but we make sure the content is quality. Get the dublin daily to rate it...send them a copy...

I'm not a huge programme fan but usually try to get one at the cross to see what the club got to say for itself 'n all.

Had intended to get one last friday but cos of the queues had to come in from the St Annes entrance. Maybe i didn't notice it but didn't seem to be any programme sellers up that end which meant i didn't buy one. Meant to try at half time but kinda forgot about then so engrossing was the game...

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Originally posted by Bernie


All suggestions are being noted, although I'm curious about the Peter Goulding article mentioned earlier. Which issue was that?

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Shelbourne.

Donie

Didn't buy one myself (€2.50 is a little pricey and I didn't notice them on the way in) but looking at it over someone's shoulder it looked very well. The A4 size is a bit unwieldly though and the stats page is quite messy (bits sideways, upside-down etc.). Can't comment on the overall content/ads as I didn't read it properly.

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Originally posted by Bernie
I'm curious about the Peter Goulding article mentioned earlier. Which issue was that?

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That was in the issue on sale at the Shels game. It was an attempt to be funny but came across as a 'NoelKingesque Dubs are great everyone else isn't' type article which I and many others felt had no place in the CCFC programme.

agreed there Colm, it was a really poor effort at humour....really smug......what it was doing in City edition I don't know.....

I thought it was funny. More tounge in cheek than smug I think

In reply to Petes query about the St. Annes end....

There is always one seller inside that gate so you may have missed him. As the bulk of the crowd comes thtough the Curragh Rd. end, thats where the sellers are concentrated.
There are issues left, and will be available from the Programme Cabin for future games.

Also, I hardly think €2.50 is that outrageous. Have you bought a soft drink in a pub recently!!! Besides you'll pay minimum of €2 at other LOI grounds for much more modest programmes.


Also, I thought that 'the Case for the Jacks' bit was amusing.
Maybe the Dublin humour isn't everyones cup of tea but we need to be more tolerant in modern soceity etc. etc.:D

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Originally posted by Colm
which I and many others felt had no place in the CCFC programme.

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u mean in the CCFC MatchDay Magazine surely Colm :)

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Originally posted by James
u mean in the CCFC MatchDay Magazine surely Colm :)

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Yes indeed, apologies for my error.:)

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Originally posted by Bernie
Also, I hardly think €2.50 is that outrageous. Have you bought a soft drink in a pub recently!!! Besides you'll pay minimum

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I'll second that. Ours is €2.00 and only the content allows us sell it at that. The production costs of ccfc mag must be very high. Last year i bought a programme at Drogheda which was, and i sh't you not...Front cover, ad, ad, team sheet, ad, ad, ad.

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Originally posted by @ndy
Last year i bought a programme at Drogheda which was, and i sh't you not...Front cover, ad, ad, team sheet, ad, ad, ad.

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Thats one of the reasons i stopped buying programmes for most away games. 6 pages of out of date city player pen pics in large font in Bray "programme" a couple of years ago took the biscuit.

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In fairness, our club was making a loss on the programme and so stopped doing it. Instead they just released a team sheet for free every game. I couldn't believe that drogs one though.

to be fair, if clubs can't guarantee the programme achieves a certain number of sales (which can be difficult with small home attendances) then it can be a drain on resuorces, will not attract the same level of advertising revenue (as opposed to the number of adverts) and there's little point making a loss on it.

on the flip side if you can guarantee two thousand sales at every home game then advertisers will be faster to chip in extra cash (maybe enough to cover production) and you can clear an extra four grand on top of the gate receipts, a very big deal given the size and finances of LOI clubs.