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I've always felt that he only cares about himself. Sadly, as he was my hero as a kid, along with Brady and Frank the Plank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
It's hard to know what to make of his club managerial career. Curate's egg I suppose, good in parts.
Will Allardyce be gone? Watching MoTD highlights I thought Newcastle were quite unlucky not to be well ahead at one stage yesterday.
I believe it will be Venables.
Once again because our joke of an association will pull the wool over peoples eyes by saying they're doing things properly, when basically they hire 2 boys who know el Tel and will eventually hire him. Delaney gets his man, the 'committee' do their job and everyones a winner (in the FAI).
Politics and personal preference will yet again shaft us, the paying supporter.
and in their shirt manufacturer?Quote:
Originally Posted by onephillyhughes
Could have sworn that I saw Venables in an Umbro England tracksuit but with adidas boots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I think the point is that there's a strong suggestion that the company that has paid money to the FAI to use their shirts until well into the next decade is calling the shots. One of Delaney's successes was to secure a lot of wedge for a long term deal and the sponsor hasn't been happy with the demise of the team's standing and has said enough's enough. I've personally been suspicious of the FAI / Umbro arrangement for a while, especially as Nike & Adidas seem to be to two dominant international shirt manufacturers these days.
didnt nike do this with brazil?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
shows umbro's status in comparison :)
All this talk of 'the company' is making this sound more and more like Prison Break :D
stuttgart, why would they be so keen on el Hell?
Apparantly if they lose to Arsenal on Wednesday he will be. Can't see him getting the job though if he becomes available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
He won't be.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
They've games against Wigan, Birmingham and some other lowly team coming up after Arsenal, I would imagine they will wait and see if he can muster up a few points there.
He won't be interested in the Ireland job anyway, club management or England are all he would want if you ask me.
Nike have bought out Umbro, but Umbro will continue as a separate brand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
would love to see Gordon strachan as our manager as he would be the right sort of character to deal with the FAI muppets:)
i think it will be El Tel , why? because Delaney has decided it will be him,Quote:
Originally Posted by ramsfan
Yes, but only recently. The shirt deals were signed a while back. I just have a suspicion that Mr. Umbro Ireland, ex-owner of Carlisle has told Delaney that he's made a balls of appointments in the past, this time he needs to get it right for the sake of shirt sales and that his choice is Venables. Just a suspicion...Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I think it will be Hodgson .. for the simple reason that Delaney does not want to be seen to have f**ked up again. Think Venables is a dummy being sold to Joe O' Public at the moment .. before producing Hodgson out of the hat. If Hodgson then fails in the job, it will all be our fault and not Delaney's then, because actually he went against his better judgement (Venables) in giving the rabble what they wanted Hodgson.
Bit of a paranoid conspiracy theory that! Or maybe wishful thinking..
Scuppers Roddy so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
There is a God!
Correct. The FAI want to appoint Venables, but they don't want to have to accept the consequences if things go badly as a result of the appointment, so they set about trying to contrive a situation whereby they appear to be doing the right thing, but as is to be expected with the FAI, they even make a mess of that. They appoint a panel which consists of two people, one of whom played with Venables and the other was on Venables coaching staff when he managed England. By the way it's the first time I've heard of a panel comprising of just two people. You also have the completely ridiculous situation whereby the U21 Manager is going to be partly responsible for the recruitment of his own boss! Up until Givens and Howe were appointed I was hopeful that the papers were just trying to make up headlines and that Venables was just another candidate. Seeing as these two were appointed though it's clear that, as per usual, there are leaks coming from the FAI. If the sources of these leaks are now indicating that it's really Venables that they are after well then it appears to me that unless someone else does a really outstanding interview that it's pretty much a done deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Am I right in thinking that the anti-Venables camp is gaining momentum? Enough to derail the train?
Coventry City has just announced it's going into administration.
As hinted above, this may throw Iain Dowie into the mix. If they wanted Jewell, then Dowie may appeal to them too.
It'd pee off our northern neighbours too!
Wonder how much the two Dons are getting paid for this little exercise. Can you imagine Don Givens interviewing the prospective managers. Q1: Who do you invisage managing the U21s?
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Having Humphries weigh in is a good start.
I don't want Venables shot and buried in a bog, I just want to be sure that this farce of having a "world class selection team" (you know, the one with the FAI employee and the man who was manager of Arsenal before they got "good at football") carefully weigh up all the candidates before they give the job to Venables is not a Machiavellian foregone conclusion.
Whatever happens, Delaney comes out of the Shytepile smelling like fresh cut grass, as if Veneables is announced, he has manufactured the process in such a way that the Don brothers will be responsible and he will no doubt sucessfully deflect the repeated calls for him to resign (again).
And if someone else gets the job?
Well, if they are sucessful, he takes the credit for his 'great leadership and organisational skills' in setting up the headhunting team.
What if they arent sucessful?
"You have to Blame Don H and Don G for this mess. I wanted Venables..."