Even on a moral level, if any semblance of Stauntons being had considered forfeiting payment - that moment has passed.
Delaney's weasel words and side step last week would ensure Staunton makes bloody sure he collects.
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Even on a moral level, if any semblance of Stauntons being had considered forfeiting payment - that moment has passed.
Delaney's weasel words and side step last week would ensure Staunton makes bloody sure he collects.
Stan has every right to hold out for the cash they promised to pay him, Anyone that thinks that the money would be spent on football is deluded in fairness the FAI would just waste it .
The rumours about 6mill to a manager over 4 years . If you look at Sven he got 5 mill a year at england so the Fai will only be able to afford another mickey mouse manager that will be able to do nothing with the hand full of talented players left he will loose and get the sack and it will all start again .
PEoples expectations are way too high Ireland the team the set up everything about football in ireland is screwed up.
Expect David o leary or John Aldridge to get the job are they an improvment on stan i dont think so
Oh I agree, he should leave but I bet he still thinks he can put it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ireland4ever
Can't blame him for holding out for the full contract. After all, he will never work again in football after such an appalling attempt to pass himself off as a coach. Perhaps now he will do a basic coaching coarse, and get involved with the grass roots of the game and put something worthwhile back into the game.
He has stated in the past that the "buck stops with him. He's the gaffer". Then he should resign. It is the fans money he is taking not Delaney's. Giles resigned and so did Keegan without payoffs.
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Originally Posted by BaZmO*
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Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
McCarthy too?
Two totally different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
I agree he shouldn't get a penny but unfortunately he will. His reign has been an absolute disaster for our team. Here's hoping we are in the final moments of it. He should have bit the bullet and resigned long ago. I've no sympathy for the man irrespective of his ability as a player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
Hopefully Delaney will follow suit and Givens will be removed from his post as U21 manager and we can start getting back on the long road to recovery.
The problem, is as far as I can see it. Most people in most industries sign contracts with Performance indicators, and the contract is only paid when these performance indicators are achieved. If the person does not achieve these, he does not get paid and the contract can be terminated.
However as Dodge pointed out before, these performance indicators did no exist in Stauntons case and his contract was purely a timed based one, so all he had to do was survive the 4 years and he would be paid.
Its time we started introducing some sort of performance indicators into the contracts we offer to international managers in my view.
Going off on a tangent here where do you see Stan ending up? I see a non-league type job with Droylsden in whatever league is below the Blue Square Premiership next season. And I'm not joking here either.
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Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
I'm sure they exist already. Qualification for a major tournament would I suspect give the "gaffer" a nice little bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
YEah but thats the carrot there does not seem to be a stick side of it also. I am not saying you should qualify or get the sack. But you should have a system where they contract is up for re-negotiation if the performances on the pitch are not up to scratch.
Why did Delaney offer Staunton a 4 year contract. That is the first question Delaney should be asked. The second being why did he offer himself a 6 year one. It just makes no sense.
If you can't understand it, would you not just relax and stop continually comment on it. The reasons for the pay off are clearly explained. it doesn't matter if you don't agree with themQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
Yes - contracts should be 2 years max. Perfomance and incentive to keep your job long-term are there with shorter contracts and a short contract ends the building for the future waffle. A capable U21 manager should also be employed to step into the senior position if needed as the risk with a short-term contract is that a good manager will find work elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
People need to stop going on about "work not done" or "he didn't do the job he was paid to do".
As Dodge has pointed out, there were no performance-based criteria in his contract. He was hired and paid to manage the national team, and he has done that. Qualifying for tournaments/beating minnows/minimum number of points were not criteria, so he is not falling short of what his contract asked, and therefore is entitled to a payoff.
Now, if you ask why a complete novice was given a 4 year contract on big money with no performance-based criteria...........that is not Stan's fault, just a blessing for him.
Remember the controversy over McCarthy's contract. During WC2002 Delaney had allegedly offered McCarthy an extension of his contract. "Verbal aggreement" later denied by Delaney.
How much was Bobby Robson paid for his 2 years?