John O'Brien, US and former Ajax winger qualified for us IIRC
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John O'Brien, US and former Ajax winger qualified for us IIRC
Going a bit off topic here but the above post reminded me of an American decathlete called Dan O Brien who won gold in the decathlon in Atlanta for the US. Apparently he had signed the papers to represent Ireland but missed the deadline and ended up representing the States.
Considering the defensive options we have at the moment, i cant really understand how you think anton wouldnt get caps for us if he was interested. Beyond mcshane and dunne we have crap all at centre half.Quote:
Originally Posted by stiofain
Also, with regard to Neill, i remember that he was down as having dual nationality in one of the championship manager games, it was when he was a millwall player so i think it was CM00/01. And as we all know CM / FM is an infallible gospel of football trivia:D
Neill is a money hungry **** anyway so no great loss
Hmmmm.......Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
Alex Bruce
Colin Hawkins
Paddy McCarthy
Darren O'Dea
Richard Keogh
Cliff Byrne
Sean St Ledger
Andy O'Brien
Gary Doherty
Damien Delaney
all playing in the Championship or Scottish Premiership or Premier League
That's a bit of a lazy description of that group of players,Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Not one of the above players plays in the Premier League, Andy O'Brien may be paid by Portsmouth, but he made 3 league appearances for them last season (two as substitute), and i'd put my hat on it that he won't exceed that this year either! Added to the fact that he is very crap, the fact he hasnt looked for a move (even a loan) away from pompey this summer also makes him out as a greedy bugger who is willing to let the best years of his career go down the sh*tter. He's a long, long way off ever playing for ireland again IMO.
Also, Darren O'Dea - who does look like he could be a good player - is at best, third choice CB at celtic (at worst fifth choice!!). An occasional starter and decent prospect, nothing more.
From his time at Spurs, Gary Doherty is widely regarded as being one of the very worst players in premiership history. An average championship player at best.
Cliff Byrne has never played championship football before, either has keogh (apart from maybe a few mins from his time at stoke). Both of their clubs are likely to be relegation fodder this season, they seem like decent pro's but it's hard to say whether they're ever going to be anything near even premiership standard.
Neither McCarthy or St. Ledger has ever played league football at a higher level than the Championship, maybe there's a good reason for this fact? Good championship players they are, but are they anything better than that?
Alex Bruce was rejected by two premiership clubs, although he seems a good championship player, I cant see him ever being as good as his dad was.
Hawkins is too old for international consideration now, missed the boat at this stage.
Championship is Delaney's level, not good enough for anything higher.
Therefore, given what i consider to be the pretty shoddy back up we currently have at CB, Anton Ferdo, as a premiership regular of 3 years experience, would walk straight into our squad as first choice back up to dunne or mcshane
i have to agree with you as much as i hate (don't really know why) anton and rio ferdinand.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
even more so as our current manager seems to have a blind preference of players signed to clubs (and not necissarily playing regularly) in the premiership over those playing in the championship.
Anton Ferdinand would turn his nose up at the idea of joining up with us and thank **** for that.
I wonder if Glenn Whelan goes to Reading if he'll suddenly jump up 10 midfield places in Stan's plans!Quote:
Originally Posted by galwayhoop
Rumours like that, Whelan to Reading, i always wonder about them, i mean its not really in the english medias interest to just make up something like that, so you have to assume there is some substance to it. Whether or not the transfer will go through is sceptical. Coppell is in the market though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
did he know who you were though paddy?
Are ya serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by stiofain
I'm kind of dissapointed now, knowing that it was Irish genes that aided the creation of that hideous head and face.
I heard a rumour that Alfredo di Stefano had an Irish grandmother, but I'd ber a bit dubious about that one! :-)
Brilliant!Quote:
Originally Posted by Torn-Ado
Wikipedia supports that. Mind you....Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Di_St%C3%A9fano
Che Guevaras granny (his dad Ernesto Guevara Lynch's mother) was from Clare (maybe Tipp). Che was a handy left winger in his day... ;)
:D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Guevara was a rugby playerQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Diego Forlan is listed in the Uruguayans of Irish descent(okay there's only 3), didn't know that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Irish_Uruguayans
Argentina have also had a few players with Irish names over the years. One of the goalscorers in the 86 world cup final was of irish descent. I also remember watching an Argentina match on eurosport a few years ago and they had a player called McAllister playing who was apparantly also of Irish descent. Maybe that shouldnt be such a surprise as there was a huge number of Irish people who emigrated to south american countries and there are still some areas in Argentina where Irish is the spoken language.
Not true. There is a Welsh speaking community in Argentina, not an Irish speaking one.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiffRaff