Athlone vs. Shelbourne - Incidents herein

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19/06/2007, 12:38 PM
R�iteoir

pretty good point there atfc

2nd yellow as a result of dissent - normally 1 game

making contact with a referee - violent conduct - 3 games or more
19/06/2007, 12:54 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by John83

Pathetic refereeing.

How is it pathetic? As as been pointed out it's obvious that he said something.

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What's more, even if there was, it doesn't justify sending him off.

That's why he only got booked for it.
19/06/2007, 1:01 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

How is it pathetic? As as been pointed out it's obvious that he said something.

So what? The referee can't provoke a reaction from a player and then send him off for it. The whole thing merits a yellow if what he said was abusive, and barely at that. The letter of the law might back up the ref here, but he's ****ed up a game because he wasn't looking where he was going.
19/06/2007, 1:05 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by John83

So what? The referee can't provoke a reaction from a player and then send him off for it. The whole thing merits a yellow if what he said was abusive, and barely at that. The letter of the law might back up the ref here, but he's ****ed up a game because he wasn't looking where he was going.

He didn't provoke a reaction- it was accidental. The player saw him coming more than 5 seconds before and could have easily stepped out of the way. And just because he bumped into the player doesn't mean he has to get abused.
19/06/2007, 1:06 PM
atfconline

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Originally Posted by John83

So what? The referee can't provoke a reaction from a player and then send him off for it. The whole thing merits a yellow if what he said was abusive, and barely at that. The letter of the law might back up the ref here, but he's ****ed up a game because he wasn't looking where he was going.

If he was yellow carded for dissent, it was in relation to Lacey's sending off just beforehand, not the referee running into him. He was already on a yellow from earlier in the game.

So you can't say "The referee can't provoke a reaction from a player and then send him off for it."
19/06/2007, 1:25 PM
Risteard

It's not obvious that he said something untoward at all.
Incidentally, It's a bit crazy that his team-mates weren't protesting.
19/06/2007, 1:26 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Risteard

It's not obvious that he said something untoward at all.

What do you think dissent is?

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Incidentally, It's a bit crazy that his team-mates weren't protesting.

Does that not tell you something?
19/06/2007, 1:30 PM
Mr A

I have no idea what happened in this case, but it is quite obvious that this ref, and indeed all others should be either burned at the stake, crucified or a combination of the two.
19/06/2007, 1:37 PM
Hitman

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Originally Posted by Galway Harps

I have no idea what happened in this case, but it is quite obvious that this ref, and indeed all others should be either burned at the stake, crucified or a combination of the two.

Finally, the voice of reason.
19/06/2007, 1:40 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

How is it pathetic? As as been pointed out it's obvious that he said something.

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

And just because he bumped into the player doesn't mean he has to get abused.

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

What do you think dissent is?

How can you be so certain he was abused? The ref hasnt said it, and the player himself hasnt said it, and it isnt obvious from the youtube clip.

What is obvious from the clip is that the ref backed into him and then sent him off. We can guess, but not assume, anything else.

It is possible that the player said something, and it is also possible that the ref, who wasnt looking where he was going, thought the player had pushed him, and sent him off incorrectly.
19/06/2007, 2:02 PM
R�iteoir

pretty good summary osa - we can't tell yet - only guess and make a stab at it (no pun intended btw :D) .

Hopefully we'll get it clarified when the suspenders are published in a couple of weeks.
19/06/2007, 2:46 PM
sfc red

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Originally Posted by Risteard

It's not obvious that he said something untoward at all.
Incidentally, It's a bit crazy that his team-mates weren't protesting.

And get themseleves sent off for SFA too?
19/06/2007, 2:52 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by sfc red

And get themseleves sent off for SFA too?

What have the Super Furry Animals got to do with this? :confused:
19/06/2007, 3:28 PM
Anto McC

I was at the game and i've no doubts from seeing the incident that the ref ran into Alan Murphy and then sent him off because he thought AM pushed him.

The forum is being over moderated,R�iteoir you need to relax,the power is gone to your head.
19/06/2007, 3:33 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by Anto McC

I was at the game and i've no doubts from seeing the incident that the ref ran into Alan Murphy and then sent him off because he thought AM pushed him.

The forum is being over moderated,R�iteoir you need to relax,the power is gone to your head.

Fine - I'll just pop off and hand in my resignation to the admins - seeing as according to you we'd be better off without my services.

Actually I could do with the extra free time.
19/06/2007, 3:40 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

Thanks for opening my eyes to the fact bud - much appreciated. :rolleyes:

:D

It wouldn't surprise me if Alan Murphy said something to the ref.
19/06/2007, 3:48 PM
Anto McC

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

seeing as according to you we'd be better off without my services.

Can you quote me,where i said this?
19/06/2007, 3:54 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by osarusan

How can you be so certain he was abused? The ref hasnt said it, and the player himself hasnt said it, and it isnt obvious from the youtube clip.

I'm going by an earlier post by someone from Athlone who said that it was clarified that it was dissent before being included in the match report.
19/06/2007, 3:54 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by Anto McC

Can you quote me,where i said this?

I'll field this one once and once only:

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The forum is being over moderated,R�iteoir you need to relax,the power is gone to your head

I read that to be another way of saying "sling yer hook" - perverse thing is - prior to today and Friday night - I hadn't logged into here for any length of time since the Bank Holiday weekend.

So I don't really see where that is coming from.

Anyway - point made, case closed, move on.
19/06/2007, 4:26 PM
Anto McC

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

I read that to be another way of saying "sling yer hook" - perverse thing is - prior to today and Friday night - I hadn't logged into here for any length of time since the Bank Holiday weekend.

So I don't really see where that is coming from.

Anyway - point made, case closed, move on.

I'll say this once and once only,i said nothing of what you thought i meant and i don't think i should be held accountable and/or punished for your imagination running away with you.

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