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Originally Posted by gustavo
did you not get sick at the world cup watching the cheating italians, ruined it for me
football is way too soft these days, its quite embaressing really
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Originally Posted by gustavo
did you not get sick at the world cup watching the cheating italians, ruined it for me
football is way too soft these days, its quite embaressing really
It runied it for you? Would you stop. :D From reading your posts here and on bigsoccer you'd have probably used that line no matter what Italy did at the world cup. I watched every minute of every game Italy played and they were far from the worst. Also, Italy are doing much, much more than the likes of England to clamp down on diving.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
As for Grosso winning the peno against Australia. I don't know any player in the world that wouldn't have went down to that stupid challenge by Neil in the last minute of a game. I can only imagine a player that would go out of his way to avoid Neil. I certainly wouldn't and I despise diving.
come of it, the Italians were far and away the worst for diving in the world cupQuote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
your judegment is obviously clouded or impaired, or maybe you dont really know whats going on in a football game,
did you not see the USA game?
that penno against the aussies?
living in britain a lot of my english friends simply call them " dirty cheating italian *******s" , why, where did they get this reputation?
to say you despise diving and then say italy aren't the worst:rolleyes:
check out the italian diving camp on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRO626ImQek
if this link doesnt work just type it in
funny there isnt one for irish/english diving camp!!! wonder why:rolleyes:
That's it, a reputation. Portugal were by far and away the worst country at the world cup for diving.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
I've already commented on the peno against Australia. There's no doubt it was obstruction and any footballer in the world would have went down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrtbGFHSjWo
Is that meant to help your argument? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Of course the Italian's have a big, big reputation for diving. I'm not denying that.
Worst divers in the premiership (bar Ronaldo) are all English; Gerrard, joe Cole, Andy Johnson
Its nothing to do with the person's nationality IMO
yeah but
for british and irish players it aint as bad, nowhere near
and there is never any debate in the foreign press about diving, its accepted
as part of the game
as for the aussie thing...thats how they go on...............
first............"sure wouldnt anybody go down"
next..........."whats wrong with it"
then............"why not, we won"
cheating is cheating
You're just making assumptions now. Did you see the Toni v Materazzi video? That's from Italian television.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
bennocelt
The Italians got a reputation for being ''dirty'' when players such as Romeo Benetti and Claudio Gentile, back in the 1960's 1970's an 1980's used to kick their opponents. That does not mean that Italy were diving in 2006 by any means. Italy deserved to win last year's World Cup and Cannavaro was the Player of the Tournament possibly with Buffon as the second best player. It speaks volumes about the modern game and the way in which players perform at the end of a long season in a major tournament, that the two best players at a World Cup were a) A Central Defender and b) a goalkeeper.
Can't believe Drogba is not on your top 5 list or has he a list of his own, Superdiver?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
oh yeah Italy (and Argentina, and maybe Germany) were the teams that played well in the world cup, and Italy deserved it, but man how many times did we see italians falling to the ground
the proof will be in the CL finals, i would nearly bet good money that Gattuso will go off the field with an "injury", which will have an instant cure, watching his "form" in other games has only comfirmed this
cant remember F Baresi ever taking a dive, he was too good of a player for that!
the italians are even diving in the rugby now, did you see the guy wwith the drop kick and run trying to get a free by bouncing of the opposition player!
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Originally Posted by bennocelt
Well my eyesight must have been very bad because I could have sworn i seen Manchester United (an English team, who according to you extol Corinthian like dedication to fair play) refuse to give the ball back to those dirty cheating Eye-Ties after they had kicked it out of play during the week there
Without weighing in on whether or not Italians dive more or less than others, there is a bit of a difference between feigning injury or diving on the one hand and, on the other hand, not returning the ball after a team has kicked the ball out of play. The former are clearly instances of cheating; the latter isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
Did you expect them to give the ball back after Kaka had clearly been faking injury and then took ages to leave the field?Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
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Originally Posted by gustavo
yeah im sorry, you are right, Kaka had to be airlifted to hospital
is he ok now?:rolleyes:
will see tonight soQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
anyway hoping for an ac milan win, have them backed since the start at 12/1