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Do people still think we had a hope of beating switxerland. Lok at the spine of their team. Their centre halves, central midfielders and strikers are MILES ahead of ours.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Only team no to concede in the world cup too...
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I think that most people if they knew what we were gonna get would have said keep kerr. At the time he had to go.
Yes, given the choice between Kerr and Staunton right now, I'd take Kerr.Quote:
Originally Posted by onenilgameover
That doesn't mean I think he should have been kept on, just that Staunton was not an improvment on him.
They were also undefeated in the qualifying campaign and in the world cup itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Switzerland haven't lost a competitive international since Euro 2004, against France.Quote:
Originally Posted by green army
They have lost their last 3 games in a row (all friendlies) against Germany, Brazil and Austria
did you not see the world cup, i did, it was rubbish and the ukraine - switzerland sumed it all upQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Im sorry but that irish performance against the Swiss was terrible, no excuses for it
They're not great but are still way ahead of Ireland. You're an absolute fool if you believe otherwise. IN both games we played them they were the better side and since then they've been OK and we've gone backwards.
when kerr was sacked we were led to believe that his replacement was martin o'neill. at least that was what i thought after the swiss game. that would have been ok but in hindsight he should never have went.
maybe kerr should have done what walter smith did for scotland and bring in an ex-international as part of his backroom team (i know that hughton was there but maybe someone like aldo) to lighten spirits and help out with training. i think the fact that kerr went into every detail was both his major strength and weakness. i still reckon that roy keane should not have walked out before the WC but it says a lot that he came back during kerrs reign. would that happen now with 'da gaffer'
the problem with the current internationals is they want their international trips to be a jolly with the boys instead of a proper professional set-up which kerr tried to bring. they are in a comfort zone and are happy with their lot while we fans are becoming more embarrased by the game.
yes, the team lacked something with kerr at the helm but the foundations were there for a professional set up whereas now we have bozo the clown and his step dad delaney.
Not sure who led you to believe that. Most people wanted O'Neill, but he was never coming to the Irish job, (1) not enough money (2) players not good enough (3) always wanted Premiership club and bide his time for Man.U job.Quote:
Originally Posted by galwayhoop
as i remember it was general consesus that , in fact i reckon that delaney was convinced he was coming. i am well aware of the reasons why he chose not tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
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Originally Posted by Dodge
no you are the fool
i would expect an irish team to beat a BAD Swiss team in Lansdowne Road
why not, ireland need a good kick up the ass, they have decent enough players, many playing in the premiership,
international football is rubbish..re greece, south korea et al, or hell even england
so yes i would and do expect ireland to beat these average international teams
On what basis have you these expectations, apart form the fact its the team you support? Seriously...Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
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Originally Posted by Dodge
em..... by watching football!
Presumably you mean the same bad Switzerland team that the eventual World Cup finalists failed to beat twice in the same group and failed to beat again in the WC itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
To be fair to Kerr both Duff and Roy Keane were out of the Swiss match, but I'll never forgive him for taking Robbie Keane off at the hour mark and replacing him with world class centre half turned striker Gary Doherty. Need a goal with half an hour to go, I know, I'll take off the player most likely to score. Appalling decision. That said he's miles ahead of Stan, we wouldn't have lost to Cyprus with a pub team if Kerr was in charge.
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Originally Posted by gustavo
no the same Switzerland that bored the as s off me against the Ukraine
or played out a mind numbing 0-0 draw in lansdowne road
or were a joke in the euros in 2004
:rolleyes:
Ah right yes , I see it now , you are a footballing purist , You hark for the days of total football where the game is played as a thing of beauty and the footballers are artists. I imagine then when Big Jacks Army were lumping and boring their way to a WC 1/4 final that you were the other one in the corner with Eamonn Dunphy despairing at the sheer unsubtleness of it all , whilst the rest of the country went mental.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Is that the 2004 european championships that Ireland didn't qualify for?
So you're saying that Ireland is better because the Swiss are boring?
Bennocelt what age are you?
ball park figure?
In fairness, the swiss team is hardly full of world class players, many of them wouldnt get into the ireland team, and thats saying something.....nothing to do with football purism, but there is no excuse in not beating that swiss team, especailly ina crunch game, the performance was souless and pitiful..and the players didnt respect kerr