It has been brought to my attention that some members of shelsweb are reading this thread.....lads, you are fecked!!!
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It has been brought to my attention that some members of shelsweb are reading this thread.....lads, you are fecked!!!
AFAIK that date in march is the date for licences for clubs competing in europe.
Regardless of that Dodge the application they made for an 'A' License in October/November should be scrutinised. If they misled the Licensing Committe in any way they should face sanctions, either revoking their license (before its too late and the league has started), downgrading the license or a re-evaluation of their application.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Hmm I wonder if someone sent an email to the FAI poitning out all the discrepancies mentioned above would they do anything?
based on past performances Not likely!
This is Delany and the FAI's big test. If this is dealt with correctly (Shels relegated or at the very least deducted points for providing false information in their application) that would be a great sign of things to come. But being honest I can't see this happening.
My prediction is that Shels will keep their license to play in the premier. Not too sure about Europe.
Easy pickings for any journalist willing to publish these facts.
Doubt it mind
we all know shels are in serious trouble
They should at least get a points deduction like rovers did but I think they should be in the 1st divison next season with waterford in the premier
the only problem if the Fai put shels in 1st divison is shels would most likely go to court and the start of the league could be delayed for months
no mater whats happens its going to make the fai and the league look a joke
The annoying thing is - if any other club in the league, nay planet, were in Shels current position, and Shels had finished 2nd in the league, you can be 110% guaranteed that Ollie Byrne would be all over the media saying what a disagrace it was, and taking the FAI to court to have Shels take that other team's place in the CL.
I have less than zero doubt in my mind that that is what Oily Byrne would do.
Luckily for his shambles of a club, Derry City aren't as petty-minded and plain desperate as he is. Otherwise, we could apply the killer blow by having them miss out on their Champions League slot and the money from it that they so desperately need..
Then people wonder why myself and others aren't keen to join the rush to suck Ollie's dick now that he's ill. Evil little b@stard.... :mad:
Is there not a likelyhood Derry might get the place anyway. I'm sure UEFA would have some say in Shels competing in CL given their predicamentQuote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
or (pre-dick-ament).
I concurQuote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Hmmm...am I now considered the bastion of knowledge here, or is this another nod to my "obsession" with this issue? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
As far as I can see (for what that's worth), you can have as many things wrong with your licencing application as you want provided you have a plan in place to fix it. That plan, it would appear, doesn't have to be overly realistic - hence Dublin City being broke and not getting any punishment.
In addition, even if Shels were denied a licence (or had it revoked), the licencing document notes that failure to have a licence "may" lead to a team being refused admission to the league. This is how Shamrock Rovers were only docked eight points after their licence was revoked.
In summary, the way licencing is written makes it such a sham that (a) I don't think it's possible to fail and (b) if you did fail, it's not necessary to take any action against you.
Lowest bar Limerick, whose mark was never revealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Student Mullet
Eh...no. They'd just ignore it, same as they ignored Shels' application. You could have media articles about it and major protests outside Merrion Square, and they'd still ignore it. They don't care, and ultimately, there's nothing you can do about it unless you go down the Shamrock Rovers/Danny Drew legal route.Quote:
Originally Posted by Banner
It's up to each individual association to nominate their European representatives, not UEFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamjar
Ther are 52 footballing jurisdictions currently in Europe. UEFA have neither the time nor the inclination to pry into the detailed affairs of each and every one to determine who should or shouldn't be worthy of a European slot.
Rovers fans would be the first to tell you why they failed the licence, being in fact the ones who ratted the club out. They submitted the previous years accounts as the same ones for the following year. Where have Shels falisified information or breached licencing? Take into account the explanation given by Pineapple Stu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenderloins
Having unpaid transfer fees? I@m sure there was a box they ticked, they shouldn't have....
;)
Thats not true, the domestic champions of each national association can enter (plus up to 3 others depending on the associations ranking).Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Also Article 1.05 deals with clubs that don't meet licence requirements,....." in this instance the national association will replace the club (in breach) with a club based on the rankings in the top domestic league championship."
So if Shels are found to be in breach of licensing, Derry will be entered into CL in their place.
If the above conditions are not observed UEFA may declare the entry invalid.
Read more here knowall
http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19071.pdf
Have any newspapers even highlighted all these faults with Shels yet?? I seen an article about that lawyer comin in wit money but thats it!
POTM!Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
Give that man a cigar:D Why do people insist on getting the hopes of Dundalk folks up by mentioning them as promotion candidates Blues are next in line under the IAG system.All the clubs bought into it "no pushing from the back of the que".Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainee
There is no way I could see Shels being relegated. But if it did happen neither Waterford or Dundalk should get promoted.
The relegation would be a punishment but there is no reason why any side in the 1st Division should be rewarded with promotion.
But its not going to happen anyway.
If Shels don't fold before the start of the year then I can see a points deduction coming their way.
If Olly got real and accepted the situation then he should request to be relegated to save being hammered week in week out.
Shels licenses should be reviewed, it has taken alot of time and money to build up the leagues euro coefficient, the fai should be taking steps to protect it. The fai would actually be doing Shels a favour by relegating them to the first division where they could rebuild ala Rovers and promoting Waterford back to the premier ...
but then they are probably afraid of that pr1ck maxi making a return visit to merrion square ... "its a faaaaaaaaaaaaarce"
bhs
The bit that says "the national association will replace the club.." is the key here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamjar
It doesn't say UEFA will replace them. It puts the onus on the individual FA's - who have had responsibility for nominating Euro reps all along.