FAI bring injustice to a new level with Dundalk dumping

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21/12/2006, 5:11 PM
Poor Student

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Best run ? You have a mickey mouse ground that could barely host the league Cup Final safely last seaason.

How barely? I don't recall it being touch and go. Also, plans are at a highly advanced stage to move ground, there's no point in constantly harping on about the current one.

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In a mediocre league, u do very well. Let's hope events catch up and leave you minnows behind.... :rolleyes:

Events catch up? Care to actually rationally outline what that would entail and why it would not affect UCD and in fact leave us behind?

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I love the whole romantic notion of a University club, but let's face it - it hasn't worked in die-hard football nations like England and Portugal. It's never gonna work in Ireland...

Right, so if it can't work in England it can't work anywhere else? Have a look at Chile and Romania, it's worked there.
21/12/2006, 5:15 PM
pineapple stu

The seats (don't see a need for "") behind the goal were shut and have been shut for a couple of years.

The stand didn't collapse and was in no real danger of doing so. It's perfectly strong. Do you think it's never been full before?* I seriously doubt your story of the engineering assessment during the game.

Plenty of people were standing on the grass bank - in fact, it was specifially opened for the night to increase capacity.

The crowd was not 4 or 5 deep around the hoardings. With 1181 seats, there were only 1000 standing around the ground in a space 200 yards long, and that's before you take into account (a) those on the hill, (b) the extra few yards for the touchlines and (c) the 30 or 40 yards that the stand doesn't cover the entire length of the touchline. So in order for the crowd to be 4 or 5 deep, everyone would have been taking up two yards or so each! You'd probably get that far, but not most people.

If anyone from Derry wants to post a fact or two, fire away. Otherwise, this is getting rather tedious and proper debate would be welcomed.

* - waits for obvious, stupid "reposte"...
21/12/2006, 5:51 PM
LukeO

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Could barely host the League Cup Final last year? Funny that - I recall the general consensus on here, even from ardent ABUs, being that Belfield Park came across really well on the telly with all the work that was done on it.

I remember watching that final on Setanta and being totally embarrassed that a national final could be staged in a ****hole like Belfield. It looked awful on tv. To be quite honest, I was hoping none of my barstooler mates happened to flick on Setanta that night as it would only reinforce their opinions of the league.
21/12/2006, 6:37 PM
harpskid

To be fair lads, any time i've been in Belfield I always have a fear that the stand will collapse and it doesn't appear to be safe, but as yer moving that's probably irrelevant.

And if UCD are so bad Steve, shouldn't you worry about your own set-up since they came ahead of Derry?
21/12/2006, 8:13 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by Luke O'Riordan

I remember watching that final on Setanta and being totally embarrassed that a national final could be staged in a ****hole like Belfield. It looked awful on tv. To be quite honest, I was hoping none of my barstooler mates happened to flick on Setanta that night as it would only reinforce their opinions of the league.

I felt the same watching Bohs play last year.

If the eL wanted to stage the LC final in a 'good' stadium, they should have nominated a neutral venue at the start of the season because it's a **** poor competition which nobody cared about until they tacked a Setanta cup spot on for Shel^H^H^H^H the winners. Go moan an bitch about it to the FAI.
22/12/2006, 5:46 PM
CollegeTillIDie

Well some of the categories which counted as criteria used for off-field scoring included,playing the players wages on time and up to date, something we were the only team according to the PFAI to do so consistently over the past few years. Which may explain how we scored so highly in the off field criteria.

Anyway this thread is about Dundalk and they are entitled to explanations as are Waterford as to why they did not make the Premier and also why there was a bloody play-off!
23/12/2006, 1:36 PM
Conor H

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Well some of the categories which counted as criteria used for off-field scoring included,playing the players wages on time and up to date, something we were the only team according to the PFAI to do so consistently over the past few years. Which may explain how we scored so highly in the off field criteria.

Anyway this thread is about Dundalk and they are entitled to explanations as are Waterford as to why they did not make the Premier and also why there was a bloody play-off!

No they're not.

The FAI may have said there was a need for transparency but they are not legally obliged to tell Dundalk how/where they failed.

Old news now.99% of the Dundalk fans have accepted the decision and moved on.
23/12/2006, 2:07 PM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by Conor H

The FAI may have said there was a need for transparency but they are not legally obliged to tell Dundalk how/where they failed.

How is it transparent though if they don't give us this information? I would expect to get it, it would be only fair as St. Pat's got it.

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Originally Posted by Conor H

Old news now.99% of the Dundalk fans have accepted the decision and moved on.

I wouldn't say it's quite 99% but yeah most of us have moved on. We are in a good position for next season and feeling confident so this has helped a lot. Philly Hughes staying did a lot to help though - The FAI should give him a medal! :)
23/12/2006, 3:55 PM
LukeO

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Originally Posted by John83

I felt the same watching Bohs play last year.

Hardly relevant, but I would agree.

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Originally Posted by John83

If the eL wanted to stage the LC final in a 'good' stadium, they should have nominated a neutral venue at the start of the season because it's a **** poor competition which nobody cared about until they tacked a Setanta cup spot on for Shel^H^H^H^H the winners. Go moan an bitch about it to the FAI.

Sorry it didn't realise I wasn't allowed discuss things in a discussion forum. I'd love to know how me disagreeing with by pineapple stu amounts to moaning and bitching. :rolleyes:
23/12/2006, 4:49 PM
sonofstan

this has the whiff of the Moscow show trials about it; 'Sorry, Kommissar D. I realise now we were duped by counter revolutionary elements; thank you for helping to turn us back to the true path"
27/12/2006, 11:16 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Well some of the categories which counted as criteria used for off-field scoring included,playing the players wages on time and up to date, something we were the only team according to the PFAI to do so consistently over the past few years. Which may explain how we scored so highly in the off field criteria.

That had nothing to do with it actually.

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