Darren Quigley to West Ham/Falkirk

Come on wake up. All you talk about is money money money. You could spend the entire 200k on marketing and I bet you wouldn't get 20 more people to go to UCD matches. Not everything in football is win win win, sometimes the little guys get s*** on, if thats the case UCD should have to pay the schoolboy club for signing the player why should they get him for free?

What debts? are there any, I taught UCD was a tight ship?

Attract better player, sell bette player more money blah blah blah and then you say more money for winning things.... Are you sure this isnt chelsea.:D

Yeah, Schumi's right, the wage budget could be expanded a bit to bring in a few extras experienced heads, something Pete Mahon is dying to do. I think Keith Doyle and Paul Crowley helped the squad a lot in the second half of the season. It also lifts the pressure off the younger players.

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

Yeah, Schumi's right

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Cool. I'm right without even posting. :D

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Originally Posted by Schumi

Cool. I'm right without even posting. :D

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Ah b:ball: llocks.:D

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Originally Posted by thegit

Come on wake up. All you talk about is money money money.

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Not true. Have explicitly stated I want to keep the players, but as a consolation, money isn't bad.

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Originally Posted by thegit

Not everything in football is win win win, sometimes the little guys get s*** on, if thats the case UCD should have to pay the schoolboy club for signing the player why should they get him for free?

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That I don't know. It's come up before and whatever way we're doing it, we're in the right. It might be because the players come from underage football, and clubs don't have the option of retaining players as they're gone too old, I don't know. Obviously Cherry Orchard (?) would get a percentage of any fee here as well.

Sometimes the little guys do get shat on. But we have UEFA on our side. Sometimes the renegade players don't get things all their own way too. ;)

Darren Quigley would be better off long term going to Falkirk and making a name for himself in the SPL. If West Ham are still interested they will sign him from there and has a much better chance of making it in the Premiershi* after a spell in the Scottish Premier.

Better the SPL than the West Ham Reserves.

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Darren Quigley would be better off long term going to Falkirk and making a name for himself in the SPL. If West Ham are still interested they will sign him from there and has a much better chance of making it in the Premiershi* after a spell in the Scottish Premier.

Better the SPL than the West Ham Reserves.

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Agreed.... Just look at Quigleys competition in the Irish Side, Darren Randloph. Charlton have loaned him out to Accrington Stanley, who are they ? Exactly !

SPL would be a much better option for him and would also give him much better exposure if he wanted to sign for a bigger club down the line.

There's a fair bit of talk in Scotland about Quigs. A buddy of mine who was a trialist with Ross County as a keeper a few years back was asking about him yesterday. Seems to be lot of interest from the Bairns.

Would KCFC be entitled to any money? He spent a season or two on our books before joining you guys.

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Originally Posted by Philly

Would KCFC be entitled to any money? He spent a season or two on our books before joining you guys.

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I think you might. I think the percentage is based on how many years were put into his development by his previous clubs. Would that also include Man City?:confused:

Well in all fairness we made him the player he is today by keeping him on the bench! :)

He was with Man City?

Youz signed him from Man City, as I understand. He went over when he was 15 or so, had his arm broken fairly early by Willo Flood and got homesick sitting on the sidelines.

How long was he at Kildare for? I always thought it was a matter of a few months at most.

Best case scenario is possibly Falkirk, with a move to an English club in a year's time for bigger money - we'd all get another slice then.

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Originally Posted by thegit

The only way it would work for them is if they built a big stadium but then how do they fill it? :confused:

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Lads we now know that thegit isn't Gary Dicker- he is in fact John Delaney.:)

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Originally Posted by thegit

Young players yes, I agree with you. But loosing your best players for money won't get you any better players, it would have been a lot easier for UCD to sign players this year if they could say they have 2 internationals in the team. Why would players join when they see they best players leaving the club.

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Young players are attracted to UCD because we have proven that we have the best development of youth players in the country. The fact that some of our players are generating interest from English clubs would enhance the chances of the best young players joining us.

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Darren Quigley would be better off long term going to Falkirk and making a name for himself in the SPL. If West Ham are still interested they will sign him from there and has a much better chance of making it in the Premiershi* after a spell in the Scottish Premier.

Better the SPL than the West Ham Reserves.

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I'd have to agree with that. Quigley may never get a look in at West Ham while Green is there.

Quigley favours Falkirk move.

IMO that would be the best move for him. Fulham wouldn't be bad either because Niemi doesn't have too many years left in him, but I still think that he would be better off moving to the SPL than Premiership reserves.

A keeper has to look at a club that's ripe to step into and Falkirk have two keepers they're not too happy with. I think it would be a decent move for Darren. I'd hope we could negotiate sell on clauses and other add ons.

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

I'd hope we could negotiate sell on clauses and other add ons.

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IMO that would be more important than the fee we receive up-front.

Your points in Post #20 are well made pineapple.

However for those not in the know. Peter Hanrahan came through the scholarship programme in the late 1980's playing for the first team from 1986-1989, so getting him to come back 10 years later was a soft sell. Brian Mooney was actually doing a course in Belfield during the years he played for us. The course completed enabled him to pursue his post football career with gusto.

They were exceptions but in general what you stated is spot on.

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

IMO that would be more important than the fee we receive up-front.

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I'm with you on that. Ditto on Dicker. I'm assuming of course you can settle on such deals for underage out of contract players.

The clubs can agree whatever they want. The arbitration only comes in if they can't agree a fee.

Have we confirmed that that applies for transfers to another jurisdiction?

Have memories of Derry trying to get eL players for free because they were in the North and so didn't have to pay fees (was rejected on the basis that they were in the same league, but the general point still holds).