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20/11/2006, 12:56 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by wws

what did cork bring to the last fai cup final?

was down in longford there on friday and from the pics on their clubhouse walls pats filled the east lower stand in 2003 - with a small over spill on the north terrace buckets

c. 15,000.

Total attendnace was just under 25,000 : 12-15,000 Cork, 7-10,000 Drogs and c. 3,000 neutrals (including me !).
20/11/2006, 12:57 PM
Peadar

Ask the guys from Portadown if they'd have us back.
You all know it makes sense to have Cork City FC representing the eircom League.

By the way wws, if head-to-head means so much, why couldn't the league champions beat Cork City again this season?
They managed to win a single point against us and that was in a 2-2 draw at Tolka.
After getting shafted by the league over the Dublin City fiasco, we're owed at least a place in the Setanta Sports Cup.
20/11/2006, 1:05 PM
Anto McC

Am i right in saying it's the same 4 teams from up north as last year?
20/11/2006, 1:10 PM
wws

the general feedback I'm getting is that the Northern clubs would welcome St Pats into it next year - as a welcome break from the same tired old teams and their fans
20/11/2006, 1:13 PM
David

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anto McC

Am i right in saying it's the same 4 teams from up north as last year?

Yes you are correct.
20/11/2006, 1:15 PM
David

Quote:

Originally Posted by wws

the general feedback I'm getting is that the Northern clubs would welcome St Pats into it next year - as a welcome break from the same tired old teams and their fans

Speaking personally, I do think you have a point although as I said earlier I have always wanted us to draw Cork. I can justify an overnight stay in Cork to my wife, can't really justify that with Dublin. ;)
20/11/2006, 1:25 PM
dcfcsteve

Quote:

Originally Posted by wws

the general feedback I'm getting is that the Northern clubs would welcome St Pats into it next year - as a welcome break from the same tired old teams and their fans

Same tired old teams and fans ?? :confused:

The tournaments only been running for 2 years, and has had a different set of entrants from the EL each time. The way you're going on you'd think it had been going for decades with exactly the same teams each time....

To be fair, I'm sure the northern fans know little or nothing about St Pats and porbably wouldn't care less if it was yourselves or UCD in there, for example. I'm sure they'd be more cncerned about seeing good footballing sides, large crowds and decent grounds more than any misty notion of staleness at such an early stage in the tournamnet's history. It would be great to have a new Northern team like Donegal Celtic in it this year, for example, but they're a weak team with little support and an atrocious ground so I'd rather Dungannon to them any day.
20/11/2006, 1:49 PM
Dodge

Are you suggesting that a succesful Pats side would get less fans than Drogheda or Shels steve? We're not far off it now and a cup win and Setanta football will obviously add greatly to it. Likewise I'd have our ground as easily the match for Portadown's, Drogheda's or the Brandywell. I'd suggest we all stop trying to guess what the ILers want and see what happens. If we get there we'll be a great addition to it (welcomed pretty much every where we go ), if not I'm sure Cork will have fun too...
20/11/2006, 1:54 PM
Pablo

Fact of the matter is the Setanta Cup would die if Cork City and Derry City are not in it evevry year. And Setanta know that full well.
20/11/2006, 1:57 PM
wws

thats utter ballocks
20/11/2006, 2:05 PM
David

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo

Fact of the matter is the Setanta Cup would die if Cork City and Derry City are not in it evevry year. And Setanta know that full well.

Seemed to go ok the first year without Derry. :confused:
20/11/2006, 2:07 PM
David

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

Are you suggesting that a succesful Pats side would get less fans than Drogheda or Shels steve? We're not far off it now and a cup win and Setanta football will obviously add greatly to it. Likewise I'd have our ground as easily the match for Portadown's, Drogheda's or the Brandywell. I'd suggest we all stop trying to guess what the ILers want and see what happens. If we get there we'll be a great addition to it (welcomed pretty much every where we go ), if not I'm sure Cork will have fun too...

If you do make it and we are drawn together, I hope you will take us up on an invite to have a few beers and a bite to eat with the lads from our supporters club before your game at Windsor. Ask the Drogs lads, you will enjoy it.
20/11/2006, 2:14 PM
wws

I have to say I'm impressed with David Jeffries - he's the first "cross over" star of this setanta cup experiment - definitely made an impression on both sidses of the border with his tv interviews etc since this thing started a bit of a character
20/11/2006, 3:22 PM
BobtheDrog

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

c. 15,000.

Total attendnace was just under 25,000 : 12-15,000 Cork, 7-10,000 Drogs and c. 3,000 neutrals (including me !).

there were more drogs fans than city fans there
20/11/2006, 3:47 PM
KildareFan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo

Fact of the matter is the Setanta Cup would die if Cork City and Derry City are not in it evevry year. And Setanta know that full well.

I think it's more likely to die if the same eight teams are in it each year
20/11/2006, 3:58 PM
Peadar

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Originally Posted by KildareFan

I think it's more likely to die if the same eight teams are in it each year

Cork City FC and Shelbourne SC are the only two Southern teams to have been in both of the tournaments to date. It's the Northern teams that have a sense of inevitablility about them.
20/11/2006, 4:16 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by BobtheDrog

there were more drogs fans than city fans there

:eek:

Please tell me you forgot to add a smilie there Bob..... :o
20/11/2006, 4:54 PM
paudie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peadar

Ask the guys from Portadown if they'd have us back.
You all know it makes sense to have Cork City FC representing the eircom League.

After getting shafted by the league over the Dublin City fiasco, we're owed at least a place in the Setanta Sports Cup.

To be fair Peadar, we're not owed anything by anybody. We knew at the start of the season that 4th in the league wouldn't guarantee Setanta or Europe.

If we qualify, great, it's a brilliant competition. If Pats do best of luck to them. They're a good club.
20/11/2006, 4:56 PM
paudie

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobtheDrog

there were more drogs fans than city fans there

i presume you have the figures to back that up. I reckon it was about 50/50.
20/11/2006, 4:59 PM
paudie

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Out of curiousity, do Cork fans travel in numbers. Other than Derry, the visiting crowds from EL at Windsor have been quite poor although I do accept there is not the same attitude to travelling to away games in the EL that there is in the Irish League.

We've had pretty modest crowds at Ports the last 2 years. It's a long trip North and back in midweek. A lot of the support were Dublin "exiles" I think.

A trip to Linfield might be seen as more "glamorous" and attract a few more.

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