Roddy and Dan McDonnell to talk about Shels farce...

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Originally Posted by Shelsman

It depends what you call legal -legal as in the eL rulebook or legal as in Ireland's laws ( I doubt anything in the latter was breached ). If the FAI are breaking or ignoring a rule in the eL rulebook then that is ridiculous behaviour by them, outrageous really! I don't have a copy of the rulebook it so I can't say. Do you?

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(a) Yes, I do have a copy.
(b) It's irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that this is not the first time a replay has been ordered. The previous time, the decision to do so was declared void by the civil court. It's disgraceful that Ollie has managed to bully the FAI into making this same decision, which has been proven illegal in the past. That also answers your question ...

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Originally Posted by Shelsman

Not sure how the Nation's laws have anything to do with football ( why bother with a rule book if the courts are going to decide everything.)

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I don't know why, to be honest; however, the fact of the matter is that they have. Maybe the civil court is like an arbitration court to decide queries over the rulebook - I don't know. But the fact is that it has declared a replay void before, a decision the league abided by, and that's part of the reason there's uproar in this situation and why the FAI's decision is simply indefensible.

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Originally Posted by Shelsman

It was the statement that Derry made that I didn't like which said that they would do what was best for Derry City FC ( no mention of football in general)

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It's been Ollie's mantra for years; I don't see how you can suddenly oppose it and back Ollie's decision to whine for a replay. I don't see any problems with wanting the rules to be applied fairly - i.e. consistent with established rulings - especially when the ruling is in favour of someone who has shown a predeliction for getting rules bent in his favour before.

[QUOTE=Shelsman]At the very least, if there is something not covered by the rulebook that causes a problem they should amend the rulebook each time with an exact penalty before the start of the next season -is this stupidly impractical???
But that's completely different to saying that every possible case should be covered in the rulebook. Which do you want?

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Originally Posted by Shelsman

If Ronaldinho was suspended and played against Chelsea the other day what do you think UEFA would do?

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Hopefully the first and only time that Jason McGuinness will be compared to Ronaldinho.

I really do hope that the replay, if/when it goes ahead, isn't crucial to the outcome of the league. Otherwise Shels "winning" the league, should they do so, won't be taken seriously.

The Entire Rule Book of the League needs to be completely overhauled, before the merger takes place. Starting the morning after the Cup Final, and I would put Mr. Roddy and Mr. Byrne on the sub-committee to sort these issues out, as well as a representative from each of the following clubs, St.Patrick's Athletic, Kilkenny City, Bohemians, Galway United and Dundalk. Each of these clubs has to a greater or lesser degree been involved in many of the controversies surrounding , players registrtations and or suspensions over the past decade. Oh come to think of it put in Cork City, even though Plonk was responsible for their problems in the mid 1990's, it might set a marker for the future.

Another point to be made, is lines have to be drawn as to what is fair comment, and what is bringing the game into disrepute.
Pat Scully's comments were factual, the behaviour of the League clubs, and latterly the FAI's handling of it, were in fact what brought those comments about.

I`ve said it before and I`ll say it again, surely UEFA have a standard rule book. Take this as a template and get the leagues chairmen together to go through it in great detail and then let them all sign off on it.

Quick question on the Hargan suspension as I couldn`t be bothered reading through all the thredas, did he actually play games for Derry when he should of been suspended (regardless of whether the FAI informed Derry)?

If he did how come Derry did not know he was suspended as surely they keep track of yellow cards etc. or did they play him knowing he was suspended?

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Originally Posted by MrJoeSoap

I really do hope that the replay, if/when it goes ahead, isn't crucial to the outcome of the league.

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I think we're all in that boat. Just as well Pat Dolan isn't involved or there's be fake medals and trophies floating around everywhere! :D

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Originally Posted by stickyjoe

I`ve said it before and I`ll say it again, surely UEFA have a standard rule book. Take this as a template and get the leagues chairmen together to go through it in great detail and then let them all sign off on it.

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Managers too.

Bump.....anyone help me out with what the situation was with the Hargan suspension ?


Quick question on the Hargan suspension as I couldn`t be bothered reading through all the thredas, did he actually play games for Derry when he should of been suspended (regardless of whether the FAI informed Derry)?

If he did how come Derry did not know he was suspended as surely they keep track of yellow cards etc. or did they play him knowing he was suspended?

Back to the thread title: is that Dan McDonnell of The Indo? I think he's been a breath of frsh air since mcDermott left and I enjoy his articles. I get the impression he's a fan as his enthusiasm clearly comes out in his writing. On international team issues his articles address many of the topics I like to see addressed.

Anyone know his background? I don't get newstalk over here.

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Back to the thread title: is that Dan McDonnell of The Indo? I think he's been a breath of frsh air since mcDermott left and I enjoy his articles. I get the impression he's a fan as his enthusiasm clearly comes out in his writing. On international team issues his articles address many of the topics I like to see addressed.

Anyone know his background? I don't get newstalk over here.

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He's a Dundalk fan; there the similarities with Gerry McDermott end. :)