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Any **** that tries to take whats not theirs deserve everything they get, the sooner the left wing/student/liberal population wake up to certain facts in this country the better! sorry mr jebus, i know you had your heart set on this but if you ask me Mr Nally should be given an honoury lifetime membership to the NRA, (not the one which plans roads through peoples homes btw)
Just heard that Nally is now looking for his gun back "for protection".
according to the indo........Quote:
The single-barrel hunting piece, once owned by his late father, Patrick, dates from the 1930s and was used by both Patrick and later Padraig, to shoot vermin on the farm.
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Originally Posted by Monkfish
Anybody who steals deserves to be shot dead?
Is that what you mean?
And what are the facts that leftwing people like me have to wake up to?
Its good to be leftwing if the right wing condone............Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
As far as I know the punishment for robbery or breaking and entering is not the death penalty. What this ruling says is that it is ok to kill a person who is breaking into your house.
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Originally Posted by NeilMcD
To be more accurate, I think it may be legally ok to kill a person who breaks into your house if you feel that your life is in danger.
What this ruling says is that you can kill somebody who is moving away from you and no threat to you at all.
More accurately I think this could set precedent that acceptable to kill someone who may be a threat to you in the future. IMO an unpolicable situation that needs legislation.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Ever been in a life or death situation? does anyone have any idea what it feels like when the adrenillen hits you like a train? Once the fight started all reason went out the window. Im sure Mr Nally would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. (i certainly would) If there was a few more cases simular to this maybe the vermin that walk our streets might think twice about taking someone elses property, extreme? yes! but whats the alternitive in this country? a suspended sentence it seems.
1. If somone steals food because there starving then thats a different story, somehow i dont think that was the case, afterall how do you cook a chainsaw?Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
2. The realities of certain groups who contribute nothing to society, and who just take take take.
Any evidence to suggest hewas in a life or death situation? Was ward armed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkfish
Unarmed combat can still be fatal, plently of people have been beaten to death without the aid of a weapon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
So you think Ward would've killed Nally?
Its possible in any fight.
And its possible he broke in to give him a hug. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkfish
Where I disagree with this line of thinking is that it's very heavy on hindsight. Nally was put in a stressfull situation and made a bad decision. The bulk of the blame should lie with Frog Ward for putting him into that situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
The way i see it is, Mr Nally was defending himself and his property,( an elderly man living alone in the country who was robbed before btw) he didnt choose to be in a situation we're a fatality can occur (unless of course your the type of person who hands over their posessions freely to scum) he unlike a lot of people fought back, maybe went a bit far, but given the circumstances its understandable, and hes done more than enough time in jail for it.
I'll bet Nally thought he would...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I don't think he needed to shoot the guy when he was running away, but put it this way, If i got the upperhand on a knacker who was breaking into my house, I'd be making sure he couldn't get back up to have another go at me...
But he didn't the last time. Nothing happened in between to make him think it'd be different ths time. I'm not trying to make apologies for Ward but you can't allow people to kill others because they MIGHT do something bad. That'd lead to every single shooting defendant using that same excuseQuote:
Originally Posted by nedder
There is no might about it Ward WAS doing something bad and deserved to be killed .Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
To avoid getting shot by farmers dont break into there homes simple rule that has helped me not get shot for the last 28 years .
We really have inherited the US shot first & ask questions later mentality.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
I think its reasonable to suggest that Ward would return to rob Nally again. I haven't found any evidence that Nally was physically harmed or would be in future. Surely the fact that Nally shot Ward would be enough of a message for him not to return. I can only see that Nally killed Ward to protect the future robbery of his possessions.