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18/05/2006, 11:08 AM
clash

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Originally Posted by ifk101

It must of been a Longford Town match you were at because then you would have been able to see that "the whole place", that is, all five fans were jeering the GAA result. And Longford's County team always lose! Furthermore, your "small number of tossers" suggests that Shamrock Rovers weren't the visiting team that day.

Nope not Longford.

The "small number of tossers" is people i meet regularly in the town, out and about. Anytime i mention GAA its nearly the same reaction i.e > Bogball.

In fairness my towns probably worse then most for this kind of behaviour.

There was a quite large crowd (for an EL match) actually at the game in question.
18/05/2006, 11:12 AM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by northside hoop

Football is sophisticated, international and urbane

Even in the First Division! :eek: I stand corrected.
18/05/2006, 11:15 AM
John83

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Originally Posted by clash

I've never met a GAA fan/player that didn't watch soccer and/or rugby except one old fella from Kerry. And i most certainly never heard any GAA supporter revelling in their local soccer club losing.

I've met plenty. I'm related to plenty. There are anti-"soccer" attitudes within GAA circles that are disgustingly vitriolic. Such attitudes seem to me to correllate well with that brand of insecure, obsessive nationalism that this country does so well.
18/05/2006, 11:21 AM
dfx-

My anti-GAA stance is cultivated lately by the fact that in a fight between the GAA and Rovers, the GAA thinks it will be the last man standing...

I personally never heard of such a sad indictment of a term as 'foreign games' either.
18/05/2006, 11:33 AM
clash

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Originally Posted by sullanefc

You don't get out much do you???

For every anti-GAA EL fan out there, there is an anti-EL GAA fan. The GAA aren't even afraid to hide their anti-Soccer/Rugby attitudes. Look how long it has taken them to open up Croke Park FFS. And even that is still in doubt. Have you heard the Rovers in tallaght story??

This is not confined to a national level. Locally, if you talk about soccer or rugby in the wrong circles you get the usual "don't mind that foreign sh!t" response.

As far as I'm concerned, it's 2-way small-mindedness and those with these attitudes are in the minority. Get over it, the world is not perfect.

Thats a load of rubbish, i've only ever met a single GAA fan who didn't watch soccer. (I didn't say EL), ffs i was at training last night and the entire team including me went to watch the 2nd half of the Champions League.

How is the GAA anti-soccer/rugby because they didn't open Croke Park ? When has Landsowne hosted a GAA match ?
18/05/2006, 11:36 AM
NY Hoop

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Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

You're always going to have a sizeable number of arseholes/"bigots" following both codes who tend to inflame the issue with petty actions and childish name-calling. There's also plenty of rugby people who are very anti-GAA and/or soccer (e.g. in certain schools) but such people would tend to consider themselves aloof:) and don't get involved in similar conflict and mudslinging. In general, I find that most fans of sport in Ireland take a fairly ecumenical view and will take an interest in all the major sports (as long as there's a successful team for them to follow!:rolleyes: ;) ).

Speaking of childish namecalling, I've often wondered about the use of the term "bogball". It seems to follow the idea that soccer is the sophisticated, international, urbane brand of football and is therefore superior to the Gaelic game played by the uneducated micks fresh out of the bog. This in turn feeds into some people's view of soccer as a game for West Brits ashamed of their own "bog" culture. Both perceptions are nonsense of course.

Good post. Too much tarring the 2 sports with the same brush because of a number of bigots on both sides. "Bogball"? How pathetic

KOH
18/05/2006, 11:39 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by clash

Thats a load of rubbish, i've only ever met a single GAA fan who didn't watch soccer.

I used to play GAA in school and one of my teachers specifically banned football talk (including any talk of the World Cup in 1990). He was fairly high up in the GAA too. He admitted to having no interest in it.

As for the Lansdowne GAA thing, LOL!
18/05/2006, 11:41 AM
reder

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Originally Posted by clash

I've never met a GAA fan/player that didn't watch soccer and/or rugby except one old fella from Kerry. And i most certainly never heard any GAA supporter revelling in their local soccer club losing.

You must be a GAA fan on here trying to wind people up. The vast majority of GAA fans are completely anti-football and rugby (actually anything british). Im not a GAA fan, I have no interest or time for their narrow-minded tripe. Being honest the last president (the man who pushed through the rule change), came accross as very forward thinking but I sense he is in the minority.

Example : (typical GAA fan who follows football)
A girl who I work with from Laois falls into this category. She follows arsenal and has no interest in the EL. I was talking to her about Croke Park being opened up and I asked her what her and her friends thought about it. They only had a problem with "England or N.I. (non nationalists)" playing there. For the England rugby game they wanted, " no st george's flag, no anthem and their fans are not allowed to wear anything british or english:confused: ". Given that the GAA are getting a decent section of seats for all games, I have the horrible feeling that GSTQ could be booed which would be a disgraceful slur on irish rugby fans and a horrible insult to NI rugby fans.

(I though she was joking but no she was serious!!!)

However the international football team also has its minority of clowns, (i.e. those who boo rangers players.) I assume that these few clowns are fans from the 6 counties (personal experience) who should really be supporting NI and/or some of the fans who follow both GAA and football.

Question : (Genuine) How many non-catholic-irish inter-county gaa players are there now?
18/05/2006, 11:43 AM
John83

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Originally Posted by Dodge

I used to play GAA in school and one of my teachers specifically banned football talk (including any talk of the World Cup in 1990). He was fairly high up in the GAA too. He admitted to having no interest in it.

As for the Lansdowne GAA thing, LOL!

I went to a primary school where most of the teachers were involved in the local GAA club. No non-GAA sports were ever played in the school. I know a guy who tried to set up chess clubs in various schools in the area - this one was the only one that actually refused to let him. Oh, and the good GAA players among the kids were shown a fair degree of favouritism in the school.
18/05/2006, 11:45 AM
sullanefc

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Originally Posted by clash

Thats a load of rubbish, i've only ever met a single GAA fan who didn't watch soccer. (I didn't say EL), ffs i was at training last night and the entire team including me went to watch the 2nd half of the Champions League.

That is why I asked you to get out more. There are plenty of anti-soccer GAA fans out there. I have met plenty, you clearly haven't. YOU NEED TO GET OUT MORE!!!!

You come on here tarring all EL fans with the same brush and there are plenty of EL fans who tar all GAA fans with the same brush. In my opinion, you are as small minded as the people who cheered your county losing (Utd Park, Flancare Park, Athlone or wherever it was).

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Originally Posted by clash

How is the GAA anti-soccer/rugby because they didn't open Croke Park ? When has Landsowne hosted a GAA match ?

I don't ever recall the FAI or the IRFU having a place in their rule book saying other sports could not play there. I'm sure if the GAA asked, the IRFU would oblige. But the pitch is obviously not big enough.
18/05/2006, 11:47 AM
BohDiddley

Astonishing naivety.
GAA from its foundation established itself in opposition to 'foreign' games. The clue is in the title. Since its inception, this organization and its followers have, to varying degrees, engaged in attempts to hinder the progress of football in Ireland and to create sectarian divisions around it. In latter years this policy has softened a little, and lots of people manage a sort of fudge in following both codes. But as we all know the diehards remain, and it takes the slightest hint of progress in football, e.g. Tallaght (and apparently also Castleknock now) to bring them out of the woodwork.
GAA followers who know their history shouldn't be shocked if this strategy gets a reaction. Please don't expect followers of football to accept accusations of bigotry in this regard.
18/05/2006, 11:48 AM
sullanefc

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Originally Posted by John83

I went to a primary school where most of the teachers were involved in the local GAA club. No non-GAA sports were ever played in the school.

Oh, and the good GAA players among the kids were shown a fair degree of favouritism in the school.

I think you will find that this is an issue in the majority of schools the length and breadth of the country. It was certainly the case in Primary school for me. Not so much in secondary.
18/05/2006, 11:49 AM
clash

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Originally Posted by Dodge

I used to play GAA in school and one of my teachers Speficially banned football and also any talk of the World Cup in 1990. He was fairly high up in the GAA too

Wow, 16 years ago. Thats relevant.:rolleyes:

I'm a huge sports fan, i follow GAA, Soccer and Rugby. GAA is my first choice sport's, always has being and always will be. I go to GAA matches eveb when my team isn't playing, i watch everyone i can on telly or listen to them on the radio. I read newspaper articles etc about it and i have NEVER found the same vile and disgust against GAA from soccer fans, in the GAA.

The club i play for, ALL watch soccer and some follow my town club.

I'd safely say that 99% of GAA fans watch soccer and/or Rugby and i'd also say that 10% of soccer fans in this country don't watch GAA.
18/05/2006, 11:51 AM
p�l-dcfc

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Originally Posted by reder

I assume that these few clowns are fans from the 6 counties (personal experience) who should really be supporting NI

.... talk about WUMage :rolleyes:

Although I agree that the fuc|<ers shouldn't be booing Rangers players.
18/05/2006, 11:55 AM
John83

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Originally Posted by clash

Wow, 16 years ago. Thats relevant.:rolleyes:

FFS, having had the same problem 11 years ago, I happen to know most of the same people are still in charge and teaching, and that the same old problems are still in place. The chess thing is very recent too.

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I'm a huge sports fan, i follow GAA, Soccer and Rugby. GAA is my first choice sport's, always has being and always will be. I go to GAA matches eveb when my team isn't playing, i watch everyone i can on telly or listen to them on the radio. I read newspaper articles etc about it and i have NEVER found the same vile and disgust against GAA from soccer fans, in the GAA.

Having done the same, I disagree wholeheartedly. I don't seem to be alone. That brings up the question, are you a wind up merchant, or just refusing to accept that other people can have seen things that don't agree with your opinion?

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The club i play for, ALL watch soccer and some follow my town club.

Congratulations. The opposite was true for me.

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I'd safely say that 99% of GAA fans watch soccer and/or Rugby and i'd also say that 10% of soccer fans in this country don't watch GAA.

And I'd say that your figures are 100% ******. Oh, look! I can pull figures out of my ass too.
18/05/2006, 12:02 PM
clash

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Originally Posted by reder

You must be a GAA fan on here trying to wind people up. The vast majority of GAA fans are completely anti-football and rugby (actually anything british). Im not a GAA fan, I have no interest or time for their narrow-minded tripe. Being honest the last president (the man who pushed through the rule change), came accross as very forward thinking but I sense he is in the minority.

No not trying to wind people up, i'm just sick of the tripe i hear around my town about the GAA.

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Example : (typical GAA fan who follows football)
A girl who I work with from Laois falls into this category. She follows arsenal and has no interest in the EL. I was talking to her about Croke Park being opened up and I asked her what her and her friends thought about it. They only had a problem with "England or N.I. (non nationalists)" playing there. For the England rugby game they wanted, " no st george's flag, no anthem and their fans are not allowed to wear anything british or english:confused: ". Given that the GAA are getting a decent section of seats for all games, I have the horrible feeling that GSTQ could be booed which would be a disgraceful slur on irish rugby fans and a horrible insult to NI rugby fans.

Well i think that's a load of crap. You can't tell them they can't have such and such, load of rubbish.

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Question : (Genuine) How many non-catholic-irish inter-county gaa players are there now?

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I don't know any inter-county Protestants playing at the moment. The Down hurling goalkeeper a couple of years ago was a Protestant.

On the non-inter-county scene i can give you several examples but only from clubs i play against or am otherwise familiar with.

I'm COI for example and i have 2 younger cousins who are COI and play ladies gaelic footy and play with a damn good team. Theres another COI(non practicing) in my club and my girlfriends club has a couple of COE (moved here when young) lads on their Junior team.

Listen (genuine) i'm not trying to stir ****, i genuinely enjoy soccer/rugby and it just ****es me off the way GAA is viewed by a lot of people in my area. I mean you can't walk down the street in my town with a GAA jersey without getting snide looks or remarks about rednecks and such.

I know mine may be worse then others because the girlfriends local town are all very into their GAA and soccer (And rugby). Her brothers play all 3 (between them).
18/05/2006, 12:03 PM
sullanefc

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Originally Posted by clash

Wow, 16 years ago. Thats relevant.:rolleyes:

I'm a huge sports fan, i follow GAA, Soccer and Rugby. GAA is my first choice sport's, always has being and always will be. I go to GAA matches eveb when my team isn't playing, i watch everyone i can on telly or listen to them on the radio. I read newspaper articles etc about it and i have NEVER found the same vile and disgust against GAA from soccer fans, in the GAA.

The club i play for, ALL watch soccer and some follow my town club.

I think you have made it obvious that you are more of a GAA fan than a soccer fan. So I would say this preference is clouding your judgement.

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Originally Posted by clash

I'd safely say that 99% of GAA fans watch soccer and/or Rugby

Rose tinted glasses.

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Originally Posted by clash

and i'd also say that 10% of soccer fans in this country don't watch GAA.

If 10% don't, then you are saying that 90% do watch GAA. That's actually a decent figure if you ask me.

You asked in your very first post on this thread if the attitudes we are discussing are confined to your "town" or if it was an EL-wide attitude. Well I can tell you it is not the common attitude at Cork City. Yes there are a minority of CCFC fans who are anti-GAA, but the majority of CCFC fans also attend Cork hurling and Football matches. I for one will attend the Cork-Kerry munster final.
18/05/2006, 12:04 PM
clash

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Originally Posted by John83

I went to a primary school where most of the teachers were involved in the local GAA club. No non-GAA sports were ever played in the school. I know a guy who tried to set up chess clubs in various schools in the area - this one was the only one that actually refused to let him. Oh, and the good GAA players among the kids were shown a fair degree of favouritism in the school.

Now your taking the ****.
18/05/2006, 12:07 PM
sullanefc

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Originally Posted by clash

Now your taking the ****.

A lot of us have had similar experiences. Are you going to tell us that we are all taking the p!ss??
18/05/2006, 12:07 PM
clash

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Originally Posted by sullanefc

You asked in your very first post on this thread if the attitudes we are discussing are confined to your "town" or if it was an EL-wide attitude. Well I can tell you it is not the common attitude at Cork City. Yes there are a minority of CCFC fans who are anti-GAA, but the majority of CCFC fans also attend Cork hurling and Football matches. I for one will attend the Cork-Kerry munster final.

Thank you, thats what i was looking for.

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