PFA Player of the year- Steven Gerrard

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26/04/2006, 4:40 PM
4tothefloor

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Awful decision. Way more deserving would be (INO) Lampard, Terry, Henry, Rooney, Given, Harewood and probably one or two others. He got it for the champions league win last season.

Gerrard's the most over rated player in the world

Ha ha ha ha ha! Lampard is the most over-rated in the world my friend. He is a good and very effective domestic player. That's about it. He cannot, and does not, produce the goods in the big games. In all the 10/11 games that Liverpool have played Chelsea since Mourinho took over, I cannot think of one game, not one, where Frank Lampard shone, stood out, or imposed himself. The only highlight (or lowpoint) I can remember is Lampard breaking Alonso's foot (another player who is a class above him). Also, if you go through Lampards goals, you'll find an arse load of deflected shots beating the keeper. Apart from his goal against Bayern Munich last season, can anyone rejig my memory and give me another example of world class Franky? Scoring goals against WBA or Bolton Wanderers does not constitute World Class IMO.

One of your nominations above, Henry, stated that Gerrard fully deserved player of the year and described him as an "inspiration". Says it all really, class recognising class. Source here

If Erikkson had half a brain he'd leave Lampard on the bench in the summer and give Steve Gerrard the licence to do what he does for Liverpool. That and Wayne Rooney to supply up front - can't see much better apart from the Brazilians. So lets hope Lampard keeps his place :D

Can't believe Momo Sissoko was not even nominated, although maybe they hadn't seen enough of him by January. Sissoko is awesome and will be for years. He's a machine compared to Viera, just look how he dominated Makele and Lampard last Saturday - and he's still only 21! :D
26/04/2006, 4:52 PM
NeilMcD

I think looking at Fantasy football tables etc is always a good indication of who has played well over a season. However this award is for a calender year. Gerrard was immense in the 2nd half of last season and the 1st half of this season, that is why he was named player of the year.
27/04/2006, 9:41 AM
Rover 2 U

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

Can't believe Momo Sissoko was not even nominated, although maybe they hadn't seen enough of him by January. Sissoko is awesome and will be for years. He's a machine compared to Viera, just look how he dominated Makele and Lampard last Saturday - and he's still only 21!

are you for real? sissoko? :D :D :D

you just couldn't make this stuff up!

you really are a stereotypical deluded liverpuddle supporter! jump back on to your bar stole there pal and scream at the tv, cause that makes a difference to the outcome of the game, honest!
27/04/2006, 9:44 AM
John83

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Originally Posted by Rover 2 U

are you for real? sissoko? :D :D :D

you just couldn't make this stuff up!

Actually, he played very well this season. Not player of the year standard, but Young player, sure. He can't have been far off a nomination and it was quite competitive this year.
27/04/2006, 11:28 AM
Lim till i die

In fairness I think theres a lot of English tabloid hype/rubbish about "Stevie G"

IMHO he isn't even the best midfielder at Anfield..... Xabi Alonso scoops that prize and by some distance too. :ball:
30/04/2006, 11:17 AM
Superhoops

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Gerrard's the most over rated player in the world

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

In fairness I think theres a lot of English tabloid hype/rubbish about "Stevie G"

IMHO he isn't even the best midfielder at Anfield..... Xabi Alonso scoops that prize and by some distance too. :ball:

Yesterday's performance against Villa, and not just his goals, showed that Gerrard is the best midfield player in the Premiership by a long way. In fact, only Henry and Rooney come anywhere near him in being the best player overall.
30/04/2006, 11:24 AM
CollegeTillIDie

Dodge

How you can even suggest Thierry Henry who has failed to turn up away from home this season in numerous games in the league is beyond me!
30/04/2006, 2:41 PM
Karlos

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

How you can even suggest Thierry Henry who has failed to turn up away from home this season in numerous games in the league is beyond me!

I would have thought it would be fairly obvious why someone would include Theirry Henry. All players have poor games now and again - wouldn't agree that they were numerous in his case at least no more than Gerrard, Lampard and particulary Wayne Rooney all considered worthy of the award.

If he's not turned up in away games yet still left all the multi million pound stirkers in the league behind while also missing games through injury, then he's even better than he gets credit for.

I would have thought his stats speak for themselves - once again leading the Premiership top scorer chart (3 or 4 years running now?) despite carrying an injury for the majority of the season - 23 goals in only 27 starts out of 35 games his team has played.

The first year he won it he actually got 24 goals in 37 games which is a worse strike rate although still better than anything out there. I would also include him becomming the first player in history to score 100 league goals at any one ground this season despite spending less years in the league than any other striker close to matching that feat.

Don't think the timing of the voting helped him as he was just returning from injury at the time but over the season he was well worth the shout as was Gerrard as I said ona previous post. Not surprised to see Henry become the first player in history to win 3 UK Writers Award either based on the overall season performance. Throughly deserved.
:)
01/05/2006, 10:32 AM
CollegeTillIDie

Gerrard has played well this season fairly consistently a good selection for PFA player of the year.
01/05/2006, 10:10 PM
Karlos

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Gerrard has played well this season fairly consistently a good selection for PFA player of the year.

Totally agree, good selection. Was one of only 2 who could have won it, in my eyes at least.
02/05/2006, 12:23 PM
Roo69

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Originally Posted by Superhoops

Yesterday's performance against Villa, and not just his goals, showed that Gerrard is the best midfield player in the Premiership by a long way. In fact, only Henry and Rooney come anywhere near him in being the best player overall.

You said it ! against Villa.......

Personally i don't think Gerrard is all his cracked up to be, he's played out of position most of the time at Liverpool so maybe thats why he under preforms a lot of the time. Can't remember the last time i seen him totally eclipse a midfielder from one of the top sides in the premiership ?

If i had a choice of picking a few midfielders in the premiership, I'd much prefer to have Lampard, Makalele or even Carrick in front of him.

I'm not saying he is'nt a good player but i don't think he's world class by any means. Henry is World Class, Sheva is world class, Rooney is World Class, Ronaldhino is World Class. Gerrard has'nt gpt the touch of genius that these players have. As i said this is IMO.
02/05/2006, 2:00 PM
eirebhoy

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Originally Posted by Roo69

Can't remember the last time i seen him totally eclipse a midfielder from one of the top sides in the premiership ?

And you can remember Lampard doing so? I've seen Gerrard dominate plenty of matches, I can't remember ever seeing Lampard dominate a match. OK, he'll get you a load of goals but he is not a leader and hasn't got an ounce of aggression in him. He's also just slightly better than Beckham in the tackle. If Chelsea are not playing well you will forget Lampard is playing.
02/05/2006, 2:26 PM
jockser

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Originally Posted by Roo69

You said it ! against Villa.......

Personally i don't think Gerrard is all his cracked up to be, he's played out of position most of the time at Liverpool so maybe thats why he under preforms a lot of the time. Can't remember the last time i seen him totally eclipse a midfielder from one of the top sides in the premiership ?

If i had a choice of picking a few midfielders in the premiership, I'd much prefer to have Lampard, Makalele or even Carrick in front of him.

I'm not saying he is'nt a good player but i don't think he's world class by any means. Henry is World Class, Sheva is world class, Rooney is World Class, Ronaldhino is World Class. Gerrard has'nt gpt the touch of genius that these players have. As i said this is IMO.

:D :D Trust me lad Gerrard IS world class....21 goals this season from midfield!!! how many has rooney, sheva ronaldhino makele carrick!?!?!? PLEASE!!!:D And you know slur Alex would break the bank if he was offered him.
02/05/2006, 2:58 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Superhoops

Yesterday's performance against Villa, and not just his goals, showed that Gerrard is the best midfield player in the Premiership by a long way. In fact, only Henry and Rooney come anywhere near him in being the best player overall.

WHo plays in midfield for Villa?

(Edit; just seen Roos' post above)
02/05/2006, 3:58 PM
Roo69

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Originally Posted by jockser

:D :D Trust me lad Gerrard IS world class....21 goals this season from midfield!!! how many has rooney, sheva ronaldhino makele carrick!?!?!? PLEASE!!!:D And you know slur Alex would break the bank if he was offered him.

I'm sure Ferguson would have him in his side because he's better than what he has at the moment but that would'nt be hard in fairness, a left winger and a centre half playing in the middle of the park FFS.

As i said, IMO I do not think Gerrard is world class.
03/05/2006, 10:18 AM
KK77

Can't remember the last time i seen him totally eclipse a midfielder from one of the top sides in the premiership ?

I remember 2002 he dominated Keane at Old Trafford had an excellent game that night but then again had Keane got that touch of class ala Rooney, Sheva, Ronaldino, Henry!!!!!!!!
03/05/2006, 10:20 AM
Roo69

2002, what 4 years ago. Says it all really.

Gerrard at his best will NEVER be as good as Keane at his best.
03/05/2006, 11:52 AM
KK77

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Originally Posted by Roo69

2002, what 4 years ago. Says it all really.

Gerrard at his best will NEVER be as good as Keane at his best.

Never said Gerrard at his best would be better than Keane but in his position he is world class and you mentioned Rooney, Henry etc compared to Gerrard and they are all strikers says it all really!!!!!!!!
03/05/2006, 11:57 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Rafa B

Can't remember the last time i seen him totally eclipse a midfielder from one of the top sides in the premiership ?

I remember 2002 he dominated Keane at Old Trafford had an excellent game that night

So let me get this straight; you're defending his selection as play of the season in England and you're saying the last time he dominated against a top midfilder was in 2002...

Well you've convinced me. He's good quality international player. He's not world class IMO
03/05/2006, 1:19 PM
KK77

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Originally Posted by Dodge

So let me get this straight; you're defending his selection as play of the season in England and you're saying the last time he dominated against a top midfilder was in 2002...

Well you've convinced me. He's good quality international player. He's not world class IMO

I never said that was the last time!

He deserves the award so fair play to him 21 goals ain't bad for an over-rated midfielder and as some quoted on here a player played out of position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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