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I was just making the point pete that loads of players came home and were ****. Its only ever 1/2 that make a real breakthrough. O'Donavan returning to Cork went pretty unheralded and there loads the same this year. There's nothing to suggest that 1/2 of them can't make the same moves as ODonavan
you are doing irish football a great disservice there by assuming these players are going to be any good just because they came from england. I wouldnt be surprised if the most effective out of the lot of them players came from monaghan and not mansfield:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Red4Eva
red4eva was only making an observation and not saying that these players will do better than foyzer
That is definitely not enough reason not to try though .... something has to be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Here's the other angle on it:Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=33643
I didn't realise Diarmaid O'Carroll played for Home Farm. He's from Kerry ffs!
Yeah monutdfc him and Stephen Finnegan were on the same team at Home Farm. Also Darren O'Dea was with Home Farm at the same time.
As for new talent coming thro, there is plenty. We are a small club and we have alot happening with our underage players so am sure its the same all over the country.
f*ck sake ur incredibly negative. i was merely pointing out that connor has put a lot of effort into signing these players. the turner saga speaks for itself, it took 4 months but he got his man. in no way did i suggest these players are are going to be successful but connor did not just pick up any auld randomers floating around england, he targeted adam hughes months ago and eventually he got his no.1 target. peers comes highly recommended by gerry cassidy&alex bruce and i think he'll definitely be a successQuote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
I wouldn't be too worried about "lack of new talent", it'll give all the other younger players who stayed at home more chances in the first team.
By the way, watch out for David Tyrell at Shels this season.
I know what you're saying frank but invariably when a good player stays in the league, then it raises the standard and it raises the barr for the players who that stayed at home, improving the standard. Thats what písses me off when people argue "can stop a player wanting to better themselves", they never see the effect if has when they leave, true is it never crosses their mind, they couldn't give a toss ..... i know most will say, thats the way it is, or tough shíte, etc. and i agree but the fact still remains that when young players are being carted off wholesale across the water, it leaves a problem and why is it wrong to try and address that.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
This is the Irish u-21 which won :eek: this week's tournament in Madeira....Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Republic of Ireland under-21s: Darren Quigley (UCD) – Keith Keane (Luton Town), Richard Keogh (Bristol City), Darren O’Dea (Celtic), James Hand (Huddersfield Town) – Stephen Grant (Waterford United), Gary Dicker (UCD), Michael Timlin (Fulham), Alan O’Brien (Newcastle United) – Anthony Stokes (Arsenal), Stephen Ward (Bohemians). Subs: Christopher Deans (Waterford United) for Grant (84 mins), Roy O’Donovan (Cork City) for O’Brien (90 mins).
6 of the 13 players used are from eL clubs.
Don't forget 3 of the 4 goals scored were by Ward and Dícker
What do UCD bring to the League? Developing young talent like Darren Quigley and Gary Dicker and others. There are very few teams in the EL who currently do not feature players who learned their trade at Belfied !:cool:
It's interesting that the more EL players Don Givens picks the better the Republic of Ireland Under 21's become now isn't it?
Well done to James Hand....ex Mons.
Just think this is worth repeating ..... its a shame we cant increase the size of the font for text though !!Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
I was referring to players brought into the league this close season compared with the last few years (itv digital collapse). Ward & O'Donovan came back from the UK, not sure about the others. Very few players in the top clubs are brought up through the junior-u21 ranks.Quote:
Originally Posted by JC_GUFC
Shane Long came up through the u-21's.
Overall this is just another negative post by Pete.
Harry, to be honest .... you named one player who played five minutes eL football and then you had a dig at Petes opinion :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by harry crumb
Seriously though, do you not think there is a problem .... The Star Newpaper today had something about Admir Softic's old club FC Sarajevo are looking for compensation from City, we all know there isnt a hope they have grounds for it and they are looking for silly money too .... but just that alone spells out the need for home grown talent or Irish talent across the water to come into the system here.
I have given my opinion above to a degree and i agree with Pete so you might say i'm biased but surely you must see the point being made ???
Probably due to the fact that they have a lot more competitive first team experience than their English based counterparts? What conclusion would you draw?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
The EL has gotta be more competitive than any reserve Division Cross channel. Even San Marino's Top Division would be !:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
Wardy came from Portmarnock, not back from the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete