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09/02/2006, 1:33 AM
hamish

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

It's called parody Klein4....:rolleyes:

And hardly, given some of the stuff the Mail has gone on-record as saying.

And besides - anyone Irish who buys an inherently anti-Irish rag like the Daily Mail is self-evidently stupid. What next - turkeys buying shares in Bernard Matthews ??

Yeah, the Mail was even writing anti-Irish crap about pigs in the parlour even in the 90s, for God's sake.

Yeah too, Pete, they have an awful record with staff - look at the high turnover too. Always a bad sign, I reckon.
09/02/2006, 8:36 AM
klein4

[QUOTE=dcfcsteve]It's called parody Klein4....:rolleyes:

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was obviously a joke! (and done in the style of a daily mail writer)
09/02/2006, 11:47 AM
dcfcsteve

Lest you find yourself in the company of a sad-act reading the Irish Daily Mail, here's a couple of of their more choice quotes to regail them with as you call their sanity into question :

1994 : Paul Johnson (Columnist).
Whilst writing on of the Mail's favourite topics - sponging immigrants - he said that certain nationalities specialise in defrauding British taxpayers "First into the field, needless to say, were the Irish", he wrote, accusing us of flocking to Britain to claim the dole "as a kind of patriotic duty".

1996 : Bruce Anderson (columnist)
In an article attacking Ireland's then EU Commissioner over his European agricultural policies, he repeated Johnson's allegations, and said "As soon as you arrive in Ireland you leave the modern world". He described the West of Ireland as "a world of farm subsidies and corruption... based on the pig and potato and ruled over by the priest".He also libelled Padraig Flynn personally by trotting out all the usual anti-Irish character stereotypes. The Mail eventually publically apologised for this article, and paid-out damages to Flynn.
10/02/2006, 12:19 PM
beautifulrock

Well done Steve on taking the time to show some examples although to be fair you do not have too look very hard when it comes to the Mail. Maybe you should pull together a selection of their infamous "Paddy" cartoons with a few Evening standard examples thrown in for good measure. I am happy to report both papers have now ceased this so perhaps our chance for our "day of anger" has gone
12/02/2006, 10:27 PM
lopez

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

...anyone Irish who buys an inherently anti-Irish rag like the Daily Mail is self-evidently stupid. What next - turkeys buying shares in Bernard Matthews ??

Couldn't put it better myself. Anyone buying the Mail is striving to be the thick Paddy that the paper likes to portray. Same goes for the Sun (too many anti-Irish articles to recount), the Express (likewise) or the Mirror (remember that rant coming up to Wembley 91?). But didn't The Irish Scum greet the news of Croke Park being opened up to soccer with a dig at GSTQ being played there?

Oddly enough, the Mail sells heaps of copies in Euros. It's the Costa Syndrome, where patriotic Brits who love their country fanatically and hate foreigners with an equal passion so much that they, erm, go and live abroad. You know; place ain't like what it was, too many foreigners who don't speak the language, etc. The Mail has an iteresting history. Leaving aside it's brief support for one of our most famous British guests of the 20th century, Oswald Moseley, it started life as a jingoist rag in 1896, just in time for the lead up to the Boer War. It's founder, Lord Harmsworth, claimed that his readers 'relished a 'good hate.'' With a stable of collumnists like Richard Littlesh*t, Peter Sh*tins and Simon Heffer they still get plenty to fuel to vent their spleen.
13/02/2006, 11:33 AM
razor

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Originally Posted by lopez

Couldn't put it better myself. Anyone buying the Mail is striving to be the thick Paddy that the paper likes to portray. Same goes for the Sun (too many anti-Irish articles to recount), the Express (likewise) or the Mirror (remember that rant coming up to Wembley 91?). But didn't The Irish Scum greet the news of Croke Park being opened up to soccer with a dig at GSTQ being played there?

So what does that leave us with?
The Star ? or maybe the Guardian.
13/02/2006, 12:46 PM
lopez

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Originally Posted by razor

So what does that leave us with?
The Star ? or maybe the Guardian.

Doesn't that leave you with three daily Irish papers (four if you include the Irish News)? Maybe the Sunday World could come up with a daily pile of tripe to cater for those that find the Times, Blueshirt and Examiner a bit too highbrow. FFS, there's enough scandal in the country and if there's a slow 'news' week then purchase the story from the British rags, as the Indo often does.
13/02/2006, 1:15 PM
NY Hoop

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Lest you find yourself in the company of a sad-act reading the Irish Daily Mail, here's a couple of of their more choice quotes to regail them with as you call their sanity into question :

1994 : Paul Johnson (Columnist).
Whilst writing on of the Mail's favourite topics - sponging immigrants - he said that certain nationalities specialise in defrauding British taxpayers "First into the field, needless to say, were the Irish", he wrote, accusing us of flocking to Britain to claim the dole "as a kind of patriotic duty".

1996 : Bruce Anderson (columnist)
In an article attacking Ireland's then EU Commissioner over his European agricultural policies, he repeated Johnson's allegations, and said "As soon as you arrive in Ireland you leave the modern world". He described the West of Ireland as "a world of farm subsidies and corruption... based on the pig and potato and ruled over by the priest".He also libelled Padraig Flynn personally by trotting out all the usual anti-Irish character stereotypes. The Mail eventually publically apologised for this article, and paid-out damages to Flynn.

Plus

15 January 2006 Paul Drury

Parading of "IRA TROPHY" Puts Pressure on Celtic

Obviously anyone from here buying this rag is an imbecile. But more and more this country is becoming a sub state of britain. The tv shows, the papers, the football clubs Irish people "support", calling each other "mate" etc etc........

KOH
13/02/2006, 1:25 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

But more and more this country is becoming a sub state of britain. The tv shows, the papers, the football clubs Irish people "support", calling each other "mate" etc etc........

Dublin is worse than the rst of the country too. Its possible to live in Dublin & not even be aware anything exists outsdie the pale. I find thatnmost places outside the pale look towards Dublin first (political & economic centre) whereas Dublin looks to Britian first.
13/02/2006, 1:49 PM
NY Hoop

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Originally Posted by pete

Dublin is worse than the rst of the country too. Its possible to live in Dublin & not even be aware anything exists outsdie the pale. I find thatnmost places outside the pale look towards Dublin first (political & economic centre) whereas Dublin looks to Britian first.

Jesus that is utter nonsense:eek: Do you have to be from cork to come up with this rubbish?

KOH
13/02/2006, 2:07 PM
Duncan Gardner

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Originally Posted by lopez

Doesn't that leave you with three daily Irish papers (four if you include the Irish News)?

And don't forget the Belfast Newsletter and Belfast Telegraph. (I wish I could as they're both ****e, but there you go) :mad:
13/02/2006, 2:29 PM
Macy

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopez

Maybe the Sunday World could come up with a daily pile of tripe to cater for those that find the Times, Blueshirt and Examiner a bit too highbrow. FFS, there's enough scandal in the country and if there's a slow 'news' week then purchase the story from the British rags, as the Indo often does.

Lopez, I hope you're not suggesting that
a) the Indo is highbrow (it's worse than most of the red tops, and certainly well behind the Star in terms of quality journalism)
b) a FG paper - long time since that was the case, FF through and through these days.
13/02/2006, 2:32 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Jesus that is utter nonsense:eek: Do you have to be from cork to come up with this rubbish?

I have lived in Dublin for over 6 years so feel my opinion is somewhat informed. have you lived in Ireland outside Dublin?
13/02/2006, 2:36 PM
NY Hoop

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Originally Posted by pete

I have lived in Dublin for over 6 years so feel my opinion is somewhat informed. have you lived in Ireland outside Dublin?

I lived for 2 years in cork. A lot of country people come to live in the capital but a lot less Dubs go to live down the country so I am very informed.

KOH
13/02/2006, 2:38 PM
WeAreRovers

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Originally Posted by Macy

b) a FG paper - long time since that was the case, FF through and through these days.

Until it comes to the North and labour relations, then the Indo is safely back in William Martin Murphy/rabid Blueshirt mode.

KOH
13/02/2006, 2:42 PM
wws

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Lest you find yourself in the company of a sad-act reading the Irish Daily Mail, here's a couple of of their more choice quotes to regail them with as you call their sanity into question :

1994 : Paul Johnson (Columnist).
Whilst writing on of the Mail's favourite topics - sponging immigrants - he said that certain nationalities specialise in defrauding British taxpayers "First into the field, needless to say, were the Irish", he wrote, accusing us of flocking to Britain to claim the dole "as a kind of patriotic duty".

1996 : Bruce Anderson (columnist)
In an article attacking Ireland's then EU Commissioner over his European agricultural policies, he repeated Johnson's allegations, and said "As soon as you arrive in Ireland you leave the modern world". He described the West of Ireland as "a world of farm subsidies and corruption... based on the pig and potato and ruled over by the priest".He also libelled Padraig Flynn personally by trotting out all the usual anti-Irish character stereotypes. The Mail eventually publically apologised for this article, and paid-out damages to Flynn.

anyone else with me that theres more than a grain of truth to Bruce Anderson's thoughts as described above??
13/02/2006, 2:44 PM
Macy

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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

Until it comes to the North and labour relations, then the Indo is safely back in William Martin Murphy/rabid Blueshirt mode.

KOH

Is there a difference between FF and FG on labour relations? Only way FG could be more right wing than FF would be to be the PD's!
13/02/2006, 2:46 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by wws

anyone else with me that theres more than a grain of truth to Bruce Anderson's thoughts as described above??

Maybe that's why they apologised and paid-out compensation..... ? :o
13/02/2006, 2:56 PM
WeAreRovers

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Originally Posted by Macy

Is there a difference between FF and FG on labour relations?

Sure is, Bertie is the Unions' "friend" don't forget - Dublin Airport etc. Bertie knows that there's votes in the unions, that's why IBEC and the other bosses groups hate him.

Having said that it's all posturing and electioneering by Bertie and he always has the PD attack dogs to do the nasty work for him. But I would still say that FF are the lesser of two evils when it comes to the big parties. Particularly when it comes to the North. There'd have been no GFA if FG had been in power.

Personally I'm hoping for a FF/Lab government next time. That would have 2 positive side-effects - 1) Rabbitte gone and 2) the PDs gone.

KOH
13/02/2006, 5:08 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

Having said that it's all posturing and electioneering by Bertie and he always has the PD attack dogs to do the nasty work for him.

Works out great for both parties - Bertie still the friend of the unions (votes for FF) & PDs enemy of the unions (votes for them). Each preaching to its own core base.

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