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02/02/2006, 5:54 PM
livehead1

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Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

because he is english? :p

o my dead lord, must every f*cking thread on this website end up saying that a player who wants to play for us is english. i dont think there has ever been any player who was born in england who has not received criticism from someone. for years he has said that he is irish, grew up wearing an ireland shirt whilst many friends around him were wearing england shirts, i feel something in common with him as i was in the same boat. for you to come and say that is not just an insult to your inability to read (if you had read, you would see he is irish) but also and insult to lee trundle and to thousands of 2nd 3rd gen irish who after your idiotic comments can probably be considered more irish than your fine self.
03/02/2006, 9:08 AM
dr_peepee

It's a pain in the arse allright....
03/02/2006, 9:29 AM
Hibs4Ever

Lads he scores a few goals in LEAGE 1 and LEAGUE 2. That doesn't mean ANYTHING.

David Connolly scored for FUN in every Championship club he was with and no one thought he was good enough:confused:

Trundle scores a few goals in a sh!t division, doesn't make him an international footballer
03/02/2006, 9:32 AM
zinedineontour

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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Lads he scores a few goals in LEAGE 1 and LEAGUE 2. That doesn't mean ANYTHING.

David Connolly scored for FUN in every Championship club he was with and no one thought he was good enough:confused:

Trundle scores a few goals in a sh!t division, doesn't make him an international footballer

yeah but it got jason byrne , glen crowe , jonathan macken,alan lee into the squad why not give the lad a chance .. we are hardly blessed with talent up front ..
03/02/2006, 10:06 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by zinedineontour

yeah but it got jason byrne , glen crowe , jonathan macken,alan lee into the squad why not give the lad a chance .. we are hardly blessed with talent up front ..

Macken was in premiership with Man City when capped, Alan Lee in Championship with Cardiff. Crowe and Byrne in Irish premier Division playing European football
03/02/2006, 10:09 AM
zinedineontour

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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Macken was in premiership with Man City when capped, Alan Lee in Championship with Cardiff. Crowe and Byrne in Irish premier Division playing European football

macken scored how many for city ? lee wasnt getting his game for cardiff ? byrne and crowe makes me laugh again ... nowhere near the standard of trundle .. some people really do have something against the lad but if you have seen him play you will realise he can do things that only crowe and byrne could dream about .. decent plodders but unlike kevin doyle havent got that extra bit of skill ..
03/02/2006, 10:09 AM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Macken was in premiership with Man City when capped, Alan Lee in Championship with Cardiff. Crowe and Byrne in Irish premier Division playing European football

Was Alan Lee at Rotherham when he made his debut? Still in the Championship/Division 1/Division 2 (delete according to preference) though

<edit>Yep he was, check http://www.soccerbase.com/players_de...?playerid=9679 for the 2002/2004 season, he came on against Norway in Brian Kerr's first home game.
03/02/2006, 10:17 AM
ColinR

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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Macken was in premiership with Man City when capped, Alan Lee in Championship with Cardiff. Crowe and Byrne in Irish premier Division playing European football

macken though didn't score many in the premiership.
lee had a good spell with rotherham, but the goals quickly dried up
and both byrne and crowe never seemed half as good in europe against the better opposition.
03/02/2006, 10:19 AM
TheJamaicanP.M.

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Originally Posted by Roverstillidie

because he is english? :p

Another Rovers fan highlighting his lack of education.:mad:
03/02/2006, 10:23 AM
TheJamaicanP.M.

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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Crowe and Byrne in Irish premier Division playing European football

Is this the same European in which Longford Town got knocked out by a Welsh team. Anyone who thinks Crowe or Byrne are international class needs their head examined.
03/02/2006, 10:42 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.

Is this the same European in which Longford Town got knocked out by a Welsh team. Anyone who thinks Crowe or Byrne are international class needs their head examined.

So you're comparing Shels European run to Longfords one off match?? Makes sense.

Anyone who thinks an average LEAGUE ONE player is international class needs there head examined
03/02/2006, 10:50 AM
FarBeag

I really can't see why some people won't give the guy a chance. What else does he have to say or do to prove that he is committed to the green shirt.We need strikers, the one's we have don't appear to be banging in the goals ffs, look at Clinton who can't get into a very average Palace team.He may have being born in England but he considers himself Irish he can score goals, is creative so that's good enough for me.
03/02/2006, 11:12 AM
ColinR

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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

So you're comparing Shels European run to Longfords one off match?? Makes sense.

the problem was that byrne was quite poor in shels european run - they did well because they had a very solid defence. this year he did bag a few goals - but in fairness they were against glentoran who would only be on a par with eL teams. in the big european games he just hasn't produced the goods
03/02/2006, 11:22 AM
TheJamaicanP.M.

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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

So you're comparing Shels European run to Longfords one off match?? Makes sense.

Anyone who thinks an average LEAGUE ONE player is international class needs there head examined

I think you'll find that I didn't say Trundle was international class.

I was simply pointing out that a poor Welsh team made a mockery of one of our better EL teams, yet we can consider EL players ahead of the star man with a top Welsh club.

I think you'll also find that Crowe wasn't part of Shel's "European run", while Byrne played most of his football on the right side of midfield during those games.
03/02/2006, 12:05 PM
dr_peepee

His impressive goals taly is matched by his equaly impressive assist tally not to mention his obvious technical abillity... All this along with the FACT that he has applied himself and excelled at every step up in standard over the last few years. Who's to say he won't cope equally as well with the transition to another higher level... Be it Premiership or international football

He's worth a look... Full stop
03/02/2006, 12:20 PM
fergalr

Folks - Groundhog day was yesterday, can we move on?
03/02/2006, 12:51 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by zinedineontour

macken scored how many for city ? lee wasnt getting his game for cardiff ? byrne and crowe makes me laugh again ... nowhere near the standard of trundle.

Macken, Lee, Byrne & Crowe may have got a couple of caps but were also proven not to be good enough so they are not in the sqaud now. If Trundle is the same quality then pointless letting him take the squad position of someone else. He plays in League One which considering how poor the bottom half of the Championship is doesn't say much.

Are all 2G & 3G people with irish decent irish? No. If I say Trundle is not irish i am not trying to insult other 2G or 3G people who have irish ties. Just because you have relatives from another country or were even born there does not make you irish! I was not born in Ireland but had lived all but 2 years here & have irish parents. I was born in London but that does not make me english.

:rolleyes:
03/02/2006, 1:01 PM
zinedineontour

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Originally Posted by pete

Macken, Lee, Byrne & Crowe may have got a couple of caps but were also proven not to be good enough so they are not in the sqaud now. If Trundle is the same quality then pointless letting him take the squad position of someone else. He plays in League One which considering how poor the bottom half of the Championship is doesn't say much.

Are all 2G & 3G people with irish decent irish? No. If I say Trundle is not irish i am not trying to insult other 2G or 3G people who have irish ties. Just because you have relatives from another country or were even born there does not make you irish! I was not born in Ireland but had lived all but 2 years here & have irish parents. I was born in London but that does not make me english.

:rolleyes:

the lad wants to play for ireland and always has good enough for me .. didnt say you were ever trying to insult the irish ??

he has proved to be a very capable player and really dont know what some on here have such a problem with .. give him a try in a friendly and see how he does ..
03/02/2006, 1:03 PM
eirebhoy

Aye but Trundle is in the minority like Kilbane, Breen, Connolly, etc.
03/02/2006, 1:38 PM
as_i_say

I was actually hoping someone would have an insight into why he didnt get a move rather than another brit for ireland debate. Trundle wants to play for us and qualifies for us so really the only debate is whether he is good enough.

He is obviously a talented footballer and surely worth a place in any championship team but imo there is something wrong if he didnt get a move-possibly this injury he has at the moment has turned into something more sinister and at 29 maybe clubs werent prepared to have a punt.

I'm very pis sed off at this cos we badly need strikers but league one is just not good enough.

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