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Originally Posted by Peadar
I remember loony leftie Lambeth council banning black bin liners in the early nineties because of their negative conotations.
My favourite quote regarding first lady "linesperson" Wendy Thoms came from Joe Royle."I am sure she can do the job but has she ever been taken fron behind by a big defender."Poor Joe
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Originally Posted by Peadar
LMAO:D
Peadar you crack me up you do.
Here's a handy list.
http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-pi.html
A friend of mine back in the 80s here played bass for a small band I was involved with ( the lads called me Groupie inspector:D). He was a phsychiatrist in the local mental hospital. One night I asked him was he availabe to play on Friday night coming and he replied, "Nah Hamish, working in the madhouse all weekend". eek:
He was from Singapore.
I wonder will future editions of Lord of the Rings replace Dwarves with "vertically challenged people"??
i thought fat was being replaced with ultra nourished/salad dodger
They're all c.untsQuote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy
I was accused of being racist today for calling someone (not the person who called me a racist) a knacker. :)
They're right.
Is "knacker" a race?
If I call you Irish, am I being racist?
Didn't think I'd have to explain that one!
You should have invited him along to the 'Member of the travelling community drinking extravaganza'.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
(There was a knacker drinking extravaganza banned in UCD because it was racist so the students involved organised a member of the travelling community drinking extravaganza the following week)
I'm generaly in favour of this PC malarky until a woman at work managed to get someone a two year caution for referring to her as 'a bird.' 'Tart' I could understand...
You are! (using the new regulations obviously) And if Ireland follows the path of Britain the only forums you'll be allowed on in future are ********** and Follow! Follow! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Yeah, calling an Irish person Irish is exactly analagous to calling a traveller a knacker. Are they teaching you anything out in Belfield at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
And the Dublin use of "knacker" is as a synonym for "scumbag" or whatever you use for agressive, antisocial people and petty criminals in NY. I tend to associate "knacker" with traveller about as much as I associate it with a bloke who take horses to the glue factory (or C&E before it burnt down).Quote:
Originally Posted by Marked Man
Don't heap your preduces and slang on us.
Thanks for the lesson on Dublin slang. Based on the context of P.Stu's original e-mail where he drew an analogy between using the term 'knacker' to refer to knackers and the term 'Irish' to refer to Irish, it's pretty clear that your use of the term is not his.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
And your associations notwithstanding, did you ever stop to wonder about the origin of the use of the word knacker to refer to "scumbag" or "aggressive, antisocial people"?
Show me where I called a traveller a knacker?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marked Man
If a person's a knacker, they're a knacker. That's fact of life, and referring to them as such does not constitute prejudice based on racial discrimination (i.e. racism). If a person's Irish, they're Irish. That's also fact of life, and referring to them as such does not constitute prejudice based on racial discrimination (i.e. racism).
Good God. Certainly didn't think I'd have to explain it twice!
So would you call a white person a ******?
Um...no. Why would I?
Same reason you'd call a non traveller a knacker
I'm using "knacker" in the context of "scumbag" here. I don't know where travellers came into it; I certainly never mentioned it or non-travellers (I know knacker is a word used for travellers, but that's not the way I'm using it).
Does that clear things up or make things worse?
Well I'd associate the word with travellers first, and then "scumbags" being a reference to that.
BTW I've used the word so I'm not trying to be preachy here, just pointing out that it could be construed as rascist
My apology to you if that's not how you meant it. WHen you threw in the analogy with an identifiable ethnic-cultural group, it seemed to suggest you were using the word to refer to an ethnic-cultural group.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Given the term's origins though, you shouldn't be so surprised that people see it as an expression of prejudice.
I'm sick to fu*k of all this Traveller's rights businness, now by all means if they wish to live the way they do, which IMHO is like ani8mals, then go for it, but the stigma of a traveller robbing and being a general tumor on society has its founding.
I'm very sceptical of Travellers Association which, not unlike those prisoner type groups seem to paint pictures and such! They are the first to jump in and say Hey Hey don't blame us etc. Whereas during Christmas some pavy kid DID try to rob me.
Too many pikeys and too few travellers if you ask me.