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i was merely suggesting an opinion, at the time of this post you are the only person to suggest that he wouldn't get into most sides and that he is just an average player....well its also a coinicidence that you happen to be a suppoerter of a rival spl side :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
Bulgaria manager Stoichkov thinks he's a bit better than average anyway:
“I think Stilian has the chance to move to a bigger league now.
"it’s very important for him to move on and develop as a player it’s normal.
“I understand the public, the coach and the chairman will want him to stay but football players don’t stay 10 years in one place any more.
“Stilian is one of the best midfield players in the world. He should be looking to compete for a club such as Barcelona or some other big team in Spain, Italy or England.
“I have had a lot of people asking me about Stilian’s position, including Frank (Barcelona coach Rijkaard). All I can really do is pass on information.”
I'm sure everyone who worked with him thinks he's better than average too. He's captaining his country since the age of 23.
Hibs4Ever - Its obvious by now that you are completely anti-Celtic so I'm certainly not going to take your view on Celtic seriously. :)
I guess this is going off topic. However, just to prove your point H4E, pick any other team in the premiership, name their first choice midfielders and demonstrate that he would lie behind them in a starting spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
He's a little better than average Im afraid;)
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Originally Posted by Junior
I could pick a lot of premiership teams that I think he wouldn't get into, what would that do to help you. I don't rate him, he's a diving cheat, get over it.
To eirebhoy, well done in showing that a former Bulgarian International and current Bulgarian Manager rates one of his players. I think you'll find most international managers would do the very same so this means nothing
Petrov is not a diver, I discussed this with you before. I haven't seen Petrov dive in at least a year. Is that all you can come up with? I've seen Scott Brown go down easy. Name the premiership teams he wouldn't get into.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
Just pick one.Quote:
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It would prove your point.
Get over what exactly?
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Originally Posted by Junior
Get over the fact that not everyone rates him. I could pick a club, say Manchester United or Arsenal, and you'll say, he'' easily get into that team. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS??? IT'S YOUR OPINION. As its MY opinion he wouldn't. ACCEPT THAT
Petrov is certainly better than Fletcher, O'Shea and Smith.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
I see you edited your post. :) Fabregas is a 17 year old with the potential to be world class, he's not Petrov's class yet.
In YOUR opinion. So me naming clubs doesn't prove ANYTHINGQuote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Its not just my opinion. There's no way on earth Petrov is worse than O'Shea, Smith or Fletcher. Not a chance. :)
I can't wait to see Petrov partnering Keane as with Lennon he has to do a load of work.
Arsenal,Liverpool,Chelsea and Man Utd,he certainly wouldn't be an automatic for those but I would say he'd get into every team in the premiership.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
He'd make every team but Liverpool and Chelsea is what I said. Arsenal, possibly but he'd walk into the Utd team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin12
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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
regardless as to whether stoichkov likes him , he should know a good player when he sees one he wasnt half bad himself, it is testament to petrovs reputation and ability that rijkard is interested in him at all.
I agree about Liverpool/Chelsea.No way would he be an automatic for Arsenal and the same for Man Utd.You only have to look at Boumsong and Bellamy to see how good they were in Scotland and how average they are in the premiership.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Don't start that one again. :) Boumsong rejected premiership clubs like Liverpool to join Rangers and he's still a regular with France. His 4 months at Rangers hardly gave him much time to build a repuation. Bellamy was a fans favourite of Newcastle winning player of the year and atm has 7 goals in 10 starts for Blackburn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin12
Petrov is better than Smith, O'Shea and Fletcher. Would he walk into the United team? I don't know but I'm pretty certain each of the above players would find it harder to make the current Celtic midfield.
All I asked is that you justify your point/opinion. I guess one of the purposes of this forum is for reasoned debate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
Alas no, its your opinion and I should just accept it. pretty pointless debating it in the first place then, I guess.
But as long as you can use caps lock, H4E, I'll always have to bow to your superior debating skills...........
EDIT: For the record, I have never suggested everyone rates him, in fact Im sure many on this board have never seen him play.
For me,Petrov is a great player in the SPL but if he went to the premiership would be an average run of the mill player,there are many of them in that league at present who would have the same impact that Petrov is having in Scotland and Bellamy had too,and Boumsong aswell,look at Barry Ferguson at those world beaters Blackburn:eek: Petrov looks better than Smith,O'Shea and Fletcher but thats because of the opposition.The SPL and the Premiership are worlds apart and it's hard to judge I suppose. Good luck to him though,it would be interesting to see him line up for Bolton someday;)Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Funnily enough I think Bellamy's spell at Celtic was overrated. Yes, he scored some great goals and important goals but crucial misses from Bellamy (at home to Rangers and away to Motherwell) ultimately cost Celtic the title. Sure he did well up there but in my opinion his lack of genuine class showed in the end, whereas Larsson & Sutton proved they were more consistent and could do it when it really counted.Quote:
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I think people have to recognise that any mid-table English forward will do better at Celtic simply because Celtic are the best. Bellamy would probably double his goal return at Chelsea because they're the best.
I don't agree. The median standard in the SPL is a lot less than the median standard in the Premiership. I'd rate the likes of a Bolton or even a Fulham being in the top 3-4 of the SPL. It's just not a very good league.
the population of england is 55 million, scotland 5. the median standard in holland, greece, portugal, russia, the ukraine is poor, but their top sides are highly competitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergie's Son