Good track record at Feyenoord. Don't know about the rest. That's why I asked the question.
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Good track record at Feyenoord. Don't know about the rest. That's why I asked the question.
he was rated fairly highly in holland at the time. I remember cruyff said he was best manager about. why did celtic get rid of him? did he not put an end to 9 seasons without a league at celtic? was it not more of a political thing that he didnt get on with brown or something. any celtic fans know anything about him?
This type of comment shows why Kerr was under pressure from Day 1. Some people view the League of Ireland as a "parochial backwater" and felt that Kerr was getting above his station by thinking he could manage an international team. Because of this he wasn't given the same allowances to make mistakes and time to learn that someone who's been through a proper football system like they have in England would.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.
The sad thing is that this view is shared by the current Chief Executive of the FAI. :mad:
Janssen resigned from Celtic because he couln't work with Brown as far as I remember.
Was he really under pressure from day 1? Quite the contrary I'd say. I remember hearing talk that Kerr had "worked miracles" to get us back into contention in that group simply because he had got 10 out of 12 points against Albania & Georgia. I think Kerr had a very long honeymoon period and most people I know were itching for him to succeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
Any criticism I have of Kerr is based on what I saw of Ireland's competitive performances in the last 3 years, and nothing whatsoever to do with where he learnt his managerial skills.
Ultimately I think the FAI made the right decision but, and it's a big but, I'm sure that Delaney's decision was not purely based on merit.
I heard the FAI were looking to chat to Paul Le Guen re the Ireland job. I know very little about him though.
I get fed up with the juvenile hyperbole directed at McCarthy and Kerr.
Talking about old managers I read that Liam Tuohey was given some sort of an honour before the Swiss game.I guess that was at Kerr's behest.
When he managed Ireland he was also managing Shamrock Rovers plus a full time job as a milkman (of sorts). He definitely qualifies as Ireland's hardest working manager
Where did you hear this one Lofty?Quote:
heard the FAI were looking to chat to Paul Le Guen re the Ireland job
Does winning a 2 horse league title race carry more or less kudos than winning a 1 horse race? Wim can dine out on that one for the rest of his life even with that hairstyle. He is not on the betting radar for the Irish job.Quote:
Whats he done apart from come first in a two horse race one season about 8 years ago?
Cruyff called for the Dutch FA to give the job to Jansen after Van Gaal resigned. I assume that reference carries some weight on any cv.
After some time in Japan I think he is back with Feyenoord now in some capacity.
...but it's been proven he couldn't, results were not good enough, book stops with the manager, hes expendable, the players aren'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
You sure you're studying law?Quote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
yeh, quite enjoyable as well. in the sense of my comment, i feel that, not always rightly, the book has to stop with a manager, the players will be around when he is gone, especially in a nation with such a short supply of real quality players. i mean if robbie keane had performed so poorly for ireland in a managerial role as he has done in the last few games then people would be calling for his head, yet in the next ireland match he will be touted as our main threat, if you see my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Maybe, as long as we have a nation with such a short supply of real quality books.
Was only drawing attention to the fact that the expression is "the buck stops here" though obviously you have a knack for phonetic spelling which isn't to be sneered at :)Quote:
Originally Posted by livehead1
A copy of "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" is on its way to you for Christmas!
sh*t , sure i must have books on the mind! too much christmas spirit one feels
Hiddink an outside chance for new manager conducts some training sessions with the Aussies over the web! A live link up with 2 assistants taking the sessions with Hiddink still in Holland. My point being would it be better to have an excellent club manager working part-time as Ireland manager rather than an average Joe as full-time manager?
just having a manger no matter who the hell he was at this stage would be a start...
Anyone know where we're at? Things have gone a bit quiet and some of the papers over here in england have been claiming that the FAI have put off a decision until the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by klein4
Is there not anybody who has a half decently sourced rumor? Has Delaney gone to ground? even Salmon Rushdie came up for air from time to time.
You would hope that all those who we do not want are also not wanted by the FAI. If any of them were found suitable then you would think that the appointment would be made already.
Though, I am still haunted by the mistrust arising from the time FAI had to select between Charlton and Bob Paisley. I remember watching that news item on the evening news in absolute shocked disbelief. We had all known that Bob was up for the job and were already planning world domination.
givens in paper at the weekend reckoned appointment would be made in early jan as nobody has spoken to him bout taking over as caretaker........altho that could just be due to FAI incompetance....I have to say I find the lack of leaks refreshing...maybe for once they do know what the are doing...
I would prefer if we had a new manager appointed as soon as possible. I think waiting to the summer before someone gets appointed would be a disaster. A manager needs time to view his players in action, unearth hidden gems etc.
Anywho, I'm sure there are plenty of viable candidates. I just don't see why if we're not gonna pick an Irishman why we have to appoint a Briton. Like its not as if there are too many highly regarded ones sitting around.
Paul le Guen would be a fantastic appointment, if it was possible. as would be Gus Hiddink. Not sure his supporters would be as fanatical as the Koreans though.....