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15/11/2005, 10:34 AM
Bald Student

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Well, you have stated the reason. The French and Swiss fans had to be accomodated. In previous games only a handful of French and Swiss fans travelled to Lansdowne. Obviously the demand from the French/Swiss organisations for the last two games exceeded expectations.

That would have been fine if the fans had been told in advance that their tickets were not guarenteed but the opposite is true. It was dishonest of the FAI to tell fans that to keep their allocation they had to buy tickets to the friendly games (some of which were on a Wednesday evening and very difficult for fans of some clubs to get to) and then to cut the allocation once the friendlies were all over.
15/11/2005, 1:14 PM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by soccerc

It was NOT the FAI's idea to allocate tickets to eircom League Supporters, the theory behind the scheme began in Tirana Airport in 2003 and initial opposition from the FAI was eventually overcome following a series of meetings and discussions.

So it wasn't their idea but they agreed to the suggestion. That seems progressive to me.

I agree that if fans had been promised tickets also for the big games and then the FAI reneged, then that is not right. However, not being party to the agreement I don't know what the promises were. Perhaps there were assumptions made by the supporters since I doubt if there was a written agreement between the parties. In either event it seems to be a PR mess again for the FAI since the good of favouring Eircom supporters for tickets was ruined by then taking them back for the foreign supporters. Obviously they did not explain that this might happen or if they did the message was lost someplace.

klein4, stick to listening to the Marian Finucane show for your information.
15/11/2005, 1:18 PM
soccerc

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

So it wasn't their idea but they agreed to the suggestion. That seems progressive to me.

Perhaps there were assumptions made by the supporters since I doubt if there was a written agreement between the parties.

No assumptions, there was paperwork that led to the tickets being restored.
15/11/2005, 1:40 PM
OwlsFan

I'd love to see what the "paperwork" said out of curiosity.
15/11/2005, 1:56 PM
klein4

my information was correct.
it was rooney who backed the idea and when he was replaced the others wanted rid of the scheme.
you have some idea in your head that the fai are hard done by and refuse to let anyone convince ya otherwise. maybe you should stop getting your information from fai press releases.

marian rocks.
15/11/2005, 2:19 PM
soccerc

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Originally Posted by klein4

my information was correct.
it was rooney who backed the idea and when he was replaced the others wanted rid of the scheme.
you have some idea in your head that the fai are hard done by and refuse to let anyone convince ya otherwise. maybe you should stop getting your information from fai press releases.

marian rocks.

Your information is not correct and I should know. The scheme was in place before Rooney was even appointed.
15/11/2005, 2:44 PM
klein4

I said rooney backed the idea which he did
and I said when he was replaced the others wanted rid of it which they did.
fair play to ya if you were one of the organisers but its got nuthin to do with the point I was making that they behaved in an underhand way re the tickets and re the red card protest. And that is why I think they are a crappy organisation.
15/11/2005, 5:57 PM
soccerc

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Originally Posted by klein4

I said rooney backed the idea which he did
and I said when he was replaced the others wanted rid of it which they did.
fair play to ya if you were one of the organisers but its got nuthin to do with the point I was making that they behaved in an underhand way re the tickets and re the red card protest. And that is why I think they are a crappy organisation.

The point is you are commenting on issues that you have no real knowledge of and that undermines your less than solid arguments. Don't get me wrong I understand your frustration but if you are going to argue a point, be in posession of all the relevant facts - not hearsay.
15/11/2005, 11:30 PM
klein4

I stand by everything I said.
I was at lansdowne the night of the red card protest so that happened to me.or are you now going to tell me it didnt?????????
the ticket thing is my reading of the situation. you havent said anything to make me think otherwise
I dont give a toss about the exact history of the tickets. The point I made was that the FAI behaved badly in relation to it. that info is readily available. arse all to do with hearsay.(great band and all that they are)
These are the two instances I have had any contact with the association so I have a bad impression of them. before that I would have been totally indifferent towards them. I couldnt beleive the way they went on. especially over that red card protest.
"The point is you are commenting on issues that you have no real knowledge of "
feckin hell well if that is the case you may as well delete all them who will be the next ireland manager threads on this forum so!

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