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I assume he meant NWOBHM which was the New Wave of British Heavy Metal which was the acronymn to describe all the british metal groups in the late 70/early 80 making it to america, the lieks of BLACK SABBATH, MOTORHEAD, SAXON ET AL.

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no its neither, i cant actually remember the acronym, but its new world order black metal movement. its basically a cover term for a bunch of facsicts who listen to heavy/black metal, many of whom are regular subscribers on metalireland such as the carrigaline black metal movement.

il find the exact acronym when i get a bit of a chance at work.

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Originally Posted by finlma

Very scarey - they do look very "arian". If you hover the cursor over the picture you'll see the ABC have labeled the photo "Nazi Twins 2". Good to see ABC not pulling any punches anyway.

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Dangerously - they look like they'll be quite fit when they're older, which will give them even more publicity ! Poster girls for the far right....

I love the quote : "We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white" . As if the government are considering reclassifying people's ethnic origin, or forcing them to do a Wacko Jacko in reverse......

Also interesting to see that they've written a ballad about Rudolph Hess. For those who don't know - Hess was Hitler's slightly deranged number 3, who famously legged-it and turned-up in Scotland in 1941 in a glider, claiming he wanted to negotiate a truce. Hitler and the Nazi's disowned him, and were hugely embarassed by the event and he spent the rest of his life in prison. An unlikely Nazi hero for the Far Right....

Looks like their hair is dyed blonde....

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

12th man - what the feck is 'coloured' ?? Has Ireland not caught-up with the 21st Century - do people really still use that outdated term ? :eek: :confused:

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Whats wrong with that way of describing our fellow people with dark skin ?.
btw,I detest racism/ists.

What way do you refer to non white skinned people ?

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Dangerously - they look like they'll be quite fit when they're older, which will give them even more publicity ! Poster girls for the far right....

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Didn't want to say it myself but they will be quiet fit. Its a disgrace that a parent can inflict such hatred in their children. I suppose it happens quiet a bit up north too - just a different type of bigotry and hatred.

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Originally Posted by the 12 th man

Whats wrong with that way of describing our fellow people with dark skin ?.
btw,I detest racism/ists.

What way do you refer to non white skinned people ?

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What is a 'non white' person ? What catch-all way do you refer to everyone who is 'non-black' or 'non-Oriental' ? I suspect none...

The term 'coloured' is discredited, on the basis that it lumps all non-whites into one big catch-all category - suggesting essentially that life is all 'whites' and 'non-whites'. The absence of an equivalent word top describe 'non blacks' or 'non-orientals' etc, shows that it was created to describe the world from a purely white perspective. The term is particularly unpopular given it's extensive use by the apartheid South African regime (where 'coloured' was used primarily to describe people who were neither black nor white - i.e. Asians).

What way do I refer to non white-skinned people ? Well - if they're black, I call them black. If they're Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese etc - I call them Oriental. If they're Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan etc - I call them Asian. I certainly wouldn't use a sloppy word to treat such vastly different ethnic groupings as if they were all one and the same.

I'm not suggesting your racsist by the way, 12th man. It's just that you really don't hear 'coloured' used any more - at least in England - so it surprised me.

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Originally Posted by finlma

Didn't want to say it myself but they will be quiet fit. Its a disgrace that a parent can inflict such hatred in their children. I suppose it happens quiet a bit up north too - just a different type of bigotry and hatred.

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If only Rhonda Paisley looked half as good. Sigh.......:D

Sorry, but the term "coloured" isn't considered acceptable any more, hasn't been for quite a few years. I was surprised when I found out myself, because I'd be taught to say coloured instead of black; because black was considered offensive at the time.

(By white people mostly I reckon. There weren't a whole lot of black people in Cork at the time. The family in my road were probably the only black people I saw on any sort of regular basis. We didn't really know how to deal with it, so mostly we ignored it. Which is ironic really, because that's how it should be.)

In America it's generally "black" or "african american" these days. In the UK it's generally just "black".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colored
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloured

adam

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

, because I'd be taught to say coloured instead of black, because black was considered offensive at the time.

adam

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That would be largely where I'm coming/came from,maybe its old fashioned values I don't know tbh.

I think the point of my original post in this thread has been lost in a side
topic and the expression was used with no offence meant and I'm sure none taken by people out there.

My brother-in-law when asked what the correct word to use says, "look at me, mon, I'm black, I'm not red, white, yellow, I'm black so call me black, not coloured!" He's from Trinidad you see!!!

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra Red

My brother-in-law when asked what the correct word to use says, "look at me, mon, I'm black, I'm not red, white, yellow, I'm black so call me black, not coloured!" He's from Trinidad you see!!!

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I stand corrected and dragged into the current century..................:rolleyes: :)

Surely we're all coloured?

Therein lies the problem with the use of the term to describe black people. Historically the term has been used to impart one piece of information ...that the person being described is not white.

As for metalireland being a meeting place for racists -I've only been on there a couple of times but I didn't notice anything so in the absense of any direct links to incriminating material -that's a fairly rough allegation to level at metalireland.

EDIT: Just took an admitedly quick flick through their forums and found absolutely nothing dodgy on there. Not so much as "Rap is Crap" type post that I've seen appear here in the Music thread -in that same music thread I myself have rounded on various aspects of modern MOBO for what I see as it's myriad of faults. That's a long way from being racist mind.

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

In America it's generally "black" or "african american" these days.
adam

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That indeed would be true of the more educated and tolerant citizens in this country (generally in and around the more metropolitan areas of the states) but I'll tell you what some of the attitudes encountered in rural America really scares the sh!t out of me.

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Originally Posted by dancinpants

That indeed would be true of the more educated and tolerant citizens in this country (generally in and around the more metropolitan areas of the states) but I'll tell you what some of the attitudes encountered in rural America really scares the sh!t out of me.

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I'll second that. Scary indeed. Any place that ends in 'ville, beware. Sad in this day and age.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

you will find loads of nwo and nwobm people around ireland, there were rumours that a certain faction of these were going to deface and try to ruin the statue of phill lynott. they had a website with a forum off it which certain members were hinting at doing the above.

go to metalireland.com and you will meet many fascists/racists.

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its bloody ridiculous when you consider the celts were also on hitlers hit-list.
****ing morons

Wee witches. It is a bloody disgrace though, poor wee girls brainwashed from day one. Just goes to show you how important a decent upbringing is.

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Originally Posted by anto eile

its bloody ridiculous when you consider the celts were also on hitlers hit-list.
****ing morons

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Correct and I also cannot understand the Number of Neo-nazis in Slavic countries.. I mean Hitler considered them Untermenschen of the lowest order. Talk about Turkeys advocating Christmas!

By the way I think all Nazi's, neo-Nazis, fascists, racial supremacists KKK sympathisers, and other supremacist morons should be shot , strangled and or otherwise prevented from breeding :D

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Originally Posted by strangeirish

I'll second that. Scary indeed. Any place that ends in 'ville, beware. Sad in this day and age.

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I know they share a ground with Satan's children at Shelbourne, but Brideville FC ? Neo-nazis'.....?:D

Them being nazis isn't even the scariest bit of that article... Them only being 13 gave me way more taxing moral issues to deal with... :)

BTW in America some people who use colored (sic) people use the excuse of the NAACP using the term. African American is becoming more and more divisive as people of Carribean origin fight for their rights.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Them being nazis isn't even the scariest bit of that article... Them only being 13 gave me way more taxing moral issues to deal with... :)

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:eek: :D

Absolutely shocking stuff from kids that young. Turns out the Sky News happy, clappy view I've been getting of America is wrong :eek:

It will be interesting in the future as this evil gets bigger to see will these two pretty white girls have as much trouble touring in Britain as those Nation of Islam chaps last year