Hey Hey! Ho Ho! This crazy f*ckers got to go!

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

The dangerous part is not so much on the world stage but domestically what long term damaging effects he will cause. At heart, like most loud bullies, he is a coward. That is why most world leaders eat him for breakfast , but at home he has all branches of Government working for him and thats whats allowing him to use the likes of ICE like the Gestapo. Just the other day at a Home Depot beside me they rolled up like they were trying to arrest El Chapo, all to arrest some day workers. The idiotic thing now is that Trump is getting push back from farmers and hotel owner so hes coming out and saying he might need to give amnesty to "illegal workers" in those sectors. They guy is a moron, but is causing economic damage.

I will say that the protests at the weekend did restore my faith in people a little bit. Massive turnouts across the country and 99.9% of it peaceful. I went to one myself and it was actually good craic. The cherry on the cake though was seeing the North Korean style military parade looking pathetic in comparison, and the fact that there were no counter protests in Washington didnt give Trump the scuffle he wanted.

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There's plenty of other posts to talk about him domestically in fairness - I just wanted to put him up there as a comparison to other world leaders in terms of how dangerous or not he is. America has been blind drunk and making a show of itself for far too long. Well before DJT. I hate to say it but the rest of the world doesn't really care any more about the plight of the average American. America made its bed a long time ago. And the apathy (at best; contempt, at worst) to the plight of the average American is at least in part due to how little the average American seems to care about the average global citizen.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

There's plenty of other posts to talk about him domestically in fairness - I just wanted to put him up there as a comparison to other world leaders in terms of how dangerous or not he is. America has been blind drunk and making a show of itself for far too long. Well before DJT. I hate to say it but the rest of the world doesn't really care any more about the plight of the average American. America made its bed a long time ago. And the apathy (at best; contempt, at worst) to the plight of the average American is at least in part due to how little the average American seems to care about the average global citizen.

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So you missed my point about him not being a massive danger internationally because he is weak

Ah lad, sure you were banging on about farmers and ICE and protests and illegals and military parades. Liquorice allsorts like. The international reference was 11 words :D (generous count)

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Originally Posted by SkStu

Ah lad, sure you were banging on about farmers and ICE and protests and illegals and military parades. Liquorice allsorts like. The international reference was 11 words :D (generous count)

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Sorry Stu, I didnt realize you were the arbiter of what people could write. I'll be sure to goosestep in line next time.

I say it again for the slow kids down the back... Trump's danger is more domestic than International, but whether you personally care, or understand, a collapsed American economy is not good for anyone

Trump says he knows where the Ayatollah is but he won't kill him for now.

Christ almighty. Has a western leader ever openly threatened to kill another country's leader before before?

I take it back about how he's maybe just an enabler and not as bad as others. He's utterly deranged

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...on-middle-east

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Sorry Stu, I didnt realize you were the arbiter of what people could write. I'll be sure to goosestep in line next time.

I say it again for the slow kids down the back... Trump's danger is more domestic than International, but whether you personally care, or understand, a collapsed American economy is not good for anyone

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Ah shtap willu.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Trump says he knows where the Ayatollah is but he won't kill him for now.

Christ almighty. Has a western leader ever openly threatened to kill another country's leader before before?

I take it back about how he's maybe just an enabler and not as bad as others. He's utterly deranged

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...on-middle-east

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Cut the man some slack, anyone would be a bit tetchy if they had campaigned on being able to stop the Russia // Ukraine conflict before breakfast if elected, and then be sent away humiliated by their hero Putin when they offered Ukraines head on a plate, rejected because Russia already has that at some stage anyway & the opportunity to make small fry of a US president was more enticing.

So he's upset, something is getting smashed to pieces & it looks like it'll be a mountain in Iran, who get along well with Russia, another angle to keep an eye on, not that Donald will have considered those potential implications at all.

Which swings it back around to my earlier point, he's in this race, one way or another, he's a contender.

Meanwhile, Israel are opening a lot of popcorn.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Trump says he knows where the Ayatollah is but he won't kill him for now.

Christ almighty. Has a western leader ever openly threatened to kill another country's leader before before?

I take it back about how he's maybe just an enabler and not as bad as others. He's utterly deranged

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...on-middle-east

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Iran turned out to be a complete paper tiger,air defences destroyed within 3 days,hundreds of Israeli planes flying freely over the country and capital city and top military leadership killed or in hiding ,also being allies with Russia turned out to be all one way and completely useless for them,truly pathetic…..

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Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

Cut the man some slack, anyone would be a bit tetchy if they had campaigned on being able to stop the Russia // Ukraine conflict before breakfast if elected, and then be sent away humiliated by their hero Putin when they offered Ukraines head on a plate, rejected because Russia already has that at some stage anyway & the opportunity to make small fry of a US president was more enticing.

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In fairness, who ever would have thought typing "VLADIMIR STOP!" onto social media wouldn't work?

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Originally Posted by culloty82

You'd have to add the Saudi royal family to the list also - ostensibly cosy with the West, but all the while using their oil revenues to finance mosques promoting their particularly fundamentalist branch of Islam.

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Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman, role model for despots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...asser-executed

I can almost hear Trump: 'y'know, they got a way, they got, these Saudis they know what to do with and maybe, there's a few, not so smart journalists so-called, not smart not as smart as me and they know it, writing bad, telling lies bad things, bad bad, that maybe we could talk to my friend Mo Mu Moch uh the Saudi emperor about....'

Well I couldn't have been more wrong about him not being a danger to the world!!!

He’s far more dangerous than the last time,there was effective checks and balances in his own administration the last time,he didn’t even inform congress before he bombed nuclear facilities of another country this time,we are in dangerous waters here…..

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Well I couldn't have been more wrong about him not being a danger to the world!!!

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Originally Posted by joey B

He’s far more dangerous than the last time,there was effective checks and balances in his own administration the last time,he didn’t even inform congress before he bombed nuclear facilities of another country this time,we are in dangerous waters here…..

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Shows what we know...

there is also the "leaked" :) message from Mark Rutte this morning... is it flattery or is it saying what others think but dont/cant say publically - or a bit of both?