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tg4 do the best coverage of all four stations,charlie mctgeever knows the league well and his co-presenter (richie?) seems genuinely interested
rté dont have a clue and dont want to know either
setantas presenter sound like they never ehard of the EL until this year,
tv3..well, eL weekly says it all
from all four stations id prefer tg4 every time
also it is good to see EL covered as gaeilge
just a tad :D Yeah, I'm thinking of doing Irish classes again myself some time in the futureQuote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
Spot on Anto, TG4 coverage has been good. I can see them doing a weekly highlights programme in the not to distant future.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto eile
Dont rule it out.
I would love to see that, they'd do a much better job than TV3 even if I couldn't understand most of it.
In practice though, who actually speaks it - its a dying language and the sooner they make it optional in secondary schools rather than compulsary, the betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
West BritQuote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo
Call me what ye like, but unfortunately the truth hurts for some people :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 9 2 8
Not gonna happen ..... and its not dying ..... its growing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmo
And it wont be changing, if you look at Wales and the success that they have had then it goes to show what can be done.
I think that, in time .... you are the one that might have to get over it .... Irish isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and that is for certain.
It shouldn't be compulsary, that does more harm than good to it for a start as people get very bitter towards it.
I think it should be compulsory. School kids will make decisions because something appears cool. Irish doesn't appear cool because it's not on MTV or what have you. Yet most people, when they get a bit older and start to appreciate their own culture more, end up wishing they had better Irish. Make Irish optional, and you'll have people wishing they had any Irish.
Is there a difference? Irish was compulsory for me, I don't speak a word of it now. I hated it, and I'm now far, far less likely to want to learn it later on than if it wasn't forced on me. It creates a bitterness towards it that is not helpful at all.
From my experience, you're the exception rather than the rule. I dropped down to Pass Irish after the Junior Cert because I didn't really care - now I kind of wish I had better Irish (even though it's passable, if extremely rusty). I know plenty of older people who hated Irish when they were learning it, but now wish they had more and are thankful for what they have.
I think it is getting stronger, though. I've noticed more people speaking Irish in everyday use. Not very often, but I've noticed it all the same. Even heard one 5-year-old kid having a dual-language discussion with his dad (I assume) in Irish and German! I think the father would talk in German and the kid would answer in Irish.
My irish is very poor but TG4 coverage is very good. Proper preview before the matches. Still pity commentary in irish. When Derry fans chanting about Roddys pastime didn't know what TG4 saying but was clear they laughing along with it.
"Níl lucht leanúna Doire ró-sásta le bainisteoir na Seamróga", I think.
The Derry fans aren't too happy with the Shamrock Rovers manager. :)
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Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Yeah, but how many people go and learn any language once they've left school. I wish I could speak Spanish (have relatives who are Spanish) but I don't ever see myself going to night classes or anything to learn it. Same deal with Irish. I hated it in school but I'm glad I have it now. Even managed to have a conversation as gaeilge with Sean Og OhAilpin when myself and the girlfriend ran into him in Inchydoney.
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
That is exactly right ..... you will value it alot more later on. Kids in school should be allowed make a decision as drastic as dropping Irish. Anyway ... you could attribute that argument to anything. Kids for the most part dont like any subject or at least would be seen dead admitting it.
Maybe not in primary school, but for the leaving cert certinaly. You make all sorts of choices there about what subjects you do or don't want to do, I don't see why Irish should be forced on you.
I dunno .... most Scandinavians have 4-5 languages before they are 20 and they speak their native language too .... nah .... i disagree, infact i say that Irish isn't evident enough for school goers !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
I don't know, I just feel it can be detrimental. Even if you had the choice but still chose Irish you'd probably be happier about doing it and ultimately be better at it. There was alot of resentment towards it in my school which was not good to see at all.
Couldnt agree more pineapple. I'm hearing it being spoken in Waterford City of all places by people in everyday conversations. I think with the advent of TG4 along with the sex appeal has made Irish chic again. West Waterford along Dungarvan out to the Cork border and its thriving again, its great and its absolutley fantastic to see eL covered in the native tongue. That should drive home the message to any of the barstoolers of the presense of our own homegrown league with the cupla focal thrown in. Commentary last night was class and I think you more or less summed up what the commentators were saying about the verbal altercation between Roderick and the Derry heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu