Matthews calls for summer soccer to go as Longford show another lack of ambition

Im surprised he's said that as most of our players have been surveyed on the issue and have all said that it's much better but they would like a mid season break. Crowds are down but there's no proof they'd increase in winter football. Winter football coincided with the novelty value of us being in the Premier Division. Now that the novelty's worn off who's to say crowds wouldn't be more or less the same?

While I prefer summer football I can see why alot of clubs want it changed back. Attendances arent significantly effected by summer football imo, but i do agree that there should be a 2 week break to let players (especially with families) go off on their holidays

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Originally Posted by Cosmo

While I prefer summer football I can see why alot of clubs want it changed back. Attendances arent significantly effected by summer football imo, but i do agree that there should be a 2 week break to let players (especially with families) go off on their holidays

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amateur mentality. are we striving for a pro league or not?

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Originally Posted by Pablo

amateur mentality. are we striving for a pro league or not?

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Jaysus some of your cork fans really take the biscuit :rolleyes: .

there's a handful of full time teams in the league. At present most clubs and the league in general doesnt have the resources to sustain 22 full time teams, majority are part time, so from a players point of view there should be a 2 week break to go off on holidays.

Hardly lack of ambition view is it? Realsit view maybe :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Cop on

Typical. Typical. Typical. Matthews is such a negative, hoofball, $hitty, pathetic clueless manager I would expect nothing else of him. Ambitionless. Gutlesss. Spineless. He is an embarrasment to the league. He is an embarrasment to himself. He is an embarrassment to the good citizens of Longford who come out in droves to support him and his bull$hit team. The man has to go now - for the good of soccer in our county and in this country.

As for that pathetic three nil victory against Waterford last Friday night (not to mention the previous three nil down in the sunny South East, the miserable two goal defeat of Rovers in Dayler, etc., etc.), the sooner the league is rid of Longford, the better.

Longford have done nothing other than lower the NATIONAL PROFILE of the league for years now. Its time they gave up the beautiful game and went back to saving hay and turf cutting. They have a $hite 'ground', gammy pitch and pathetic money-grabbing officials who won't get up off their lazy asse$ unless they are paid vast sums of money.

MATTHEWS - in the name of god, please go NOW.

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It's because of attitudes like yours that clubs like Longford will never progress.

I think the level of your ambition is summed up nicely when you give 2 wins over Waterford and win over Rovers as your highlights of the season. Pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Cosmo

Jaysus some of your cork fans really take the biscuit :rolleyes: .

there's a handful of full time teams in the league. At present most clubs and the league in general doesnt have the resources to sustain 22 full time teams, majority are part time, so from a players point of view there should be a 2 week break to go off on holidays.

Hardly lack of ambition view is it? Realsit view maybe :rolleyes:

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I don't see any of our players looking for a holiday. in fact I was talking to Georgie the other night and he said he doesn't want the season to end at all. Our players don't want holidays, they're professionals and are enjoying their trips to Lithuania, Stockholm, Prague etc.

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Absolutely. Amateurs. Sure what would you expect from a shower of unsophisticated bog men, good for nothing else but cutting turf and playing GAAh - You see these bogmen are used to voluntary pursuits. They are only amateurs, with amateur standards and amateur ambitions. Sure aren't they just glad to be there.

The sophisticated denziens of Choker land meanwhile, are so used to seeing 'Flynnie :p ' and 'Fennie :p ' score goals with regularity and ease that they simply cannot countenance how bogmen can be in the same competitions - never mind in the same league - as them that they should call for the expulsion of the bogmen from the league - with immediate effect.

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here here. i second that.

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Originally Posted by Colm

I don't see any of our players looking for a holiday. in fact I was talking to Georgie the other night and he said he doesn't want the season to end at all. Our players don't want holidays, they're professionals and are enjoying their trips to Lithuania, Stockholm, Prague etc.

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better than getting a spanking from a Munster senior League team in wales thats for sure!

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Absolutely. Amateurs. Sure what would you expect from a shower of unsophisticated bog men, good for nothing else but cutting turf and playing GAAh - You see these bogmen are used to voluntary pursuits. They are only amateurs, with amateur standards and amateur ambitions. Sure aren't they just glad to be there.

The sophisticated denziens of Choker land meanwhile, are so used to seeing 'Flynnie :p ' and 'Fennie :p ' score goals with regularity and ease that they simply cannot countenance how bogmen can be in the same competitions - never mind in the same league - as them that they should call for the expulsion of the bogmen from the league - with immediate effect.

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You're talking a lot more sense than you realise in that post.

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Originally Posted by Colm

I don't see any of our players looking for a holiday. in fact I was talking to Georgie the other night and he said he doesn't want the season to end at all. Our players don't want holidays, they're professionals and are enjoying their trips to Lithuania, Stockholm, Prague etc.

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They're full time players though. Big difference.

Until we have a fully professional league, then issues like players holidays can't be just written off just because a few clubs are fully pro. In fact likely to be less full time teams next year - Rover's folly is over, Shels will be cutting it fine if no setanta or europe, bohs must be a doubt too unless again they qualify for setanta or europe. Drogs couldn't afford it based on their crowds...

Is the strive for a professional league or a (more) bankrupt one?

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Absolutely. Amateurs. Sure what would you expect from a shower of unsophisticated bog men, good for nothing else but cutting turf and playing GAAh - You see these bogmen are used to voluntary pursuits. They are only amateurs, with amateur standards and amateur ambitions. Sure aren't they just glad to be there.

The sophisticated denziens of Choker land meanwhile, are so used to seeing 'Flynnie :p ' and 'Fennie :p ' score goals with regularity and ease that they simply cannot countenance how bogmen can be in the same competitions - never mind in the same league - as them that they should call for the expulsion of the bogmen from the league - with immediate effect.

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you're really starting to give me a pain in the arse, ya know that :rolleyes: Some City fans don't like Longford/Alan Matthews. GET OVER IT! If you think they're being obnoxious, why are you stooping to the level of inane insults which just make you look like a fool? "Choker land" - who's choking? We're top, in case you haven't noticed. If you want examples of choking, I'm sure I could translate it from the Welsh for you, but I'm not going to be that petty. get over yourself

'Our players don't want holidays, they're professionals'

Eh thats my point :rolleyes: - theres only a handful of teams who are professional teams. I cant see how its right to deprive part time players who some are on as low of 40 or 50e a week going on holiday.

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Originally Posted by sullanefc

Back to mucky pitches that doesn't help a passing game and teams reverting to long ball boring football.

Yeah, that would suit Longford.

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Want bigger crowds?? Change the kick off time, that's what you do.

Several hundred people paid 15 Euro last Friday to watch Bohs-Rovers, only to miss the first 20+ minutes, and 2 goals. :( That's just one example of crass kick-off times.

Also, reduce ticket prices. They're too expensive at most clubs. If your team is mediocre, only the die-hards will traipse up and down the country every week at considerable inconvenience and pay over the odds, to watch a sh-it game. Would you ask a neutral to pay 15 Euro to watch Longford, Drogheda, Waterford, Bohs, or UCD at home, clubs with nothing to play for?? Glamour sells in this country. Where's the glamour in playing Longford, and UCD? :confused:

Ditto the first division. I decided to go to a game at the Carlisle Grounds last season, as a neutral. It takes a lot for me to turn back from a match, but I said no when I was asked to pay 20 Euro into the game, having missed the first half hour. Madness. :mad:

If you want to see the league implode, by all means let's return to mudbaths, postponements, and NL sides losing more often to clubs from Liechtenstein, and you will still get crap attendances. If you want to see the league progressing, leave the summer season alone. It is working.

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If you want to see the league implode, by all means let's return to mudbaths, postponements, and NL sides losing more often to clubs from Liechtenstein, and you will still get crap attendances. If you want to see the league progressing, leave the summer season alone. It is working.

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It's the ridiculous push/rush for full time football that will cause the league to implode. Clubs spending more than they can afford, not helped if crowds are down.

The GAA have amateur players who play a summer season. Do they take holidays in the middle? A holiday break is ludicrous as fitness will drop considerably. Its a non-runner. Stick with summer season or move back to winter.

Players have to make a decision as the clubs still pay some of them good part-time wages. You continue with professional (includes part-time) football & no holidays in the summer or go back as amateur leagues.

'The GAA have amateur players who play a summer season. Do they take holidays in the middle?'

In fairness GAA and football players have a different mentality - sure GAA players are playing for nothing, sums up the difference in mentality (btw thats obviously a praise for GAA players attitudes). Its not comparing like for like

Actually, this is the first summer season where they will not be a break. There was a break for the Special Olympics last year.He is not giving it much of a chance, is he?

How many of the players have "families"

The league is now made up of young players.

Take Cork City.

How many of the Cork City team have a family. ie. kids.

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Originally Posted by Macy

It's the ridiculous push/rush for full time football that will cause the league to implode.

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It's not ridiculous, it's called ambition. There are many NL people who are ambitious, and want the league to improve. For every Ollie, Rico, and Dolan, there is a Matthews and a Keely. Keely whinged for decades about the standard of the league. Now when something positive is happening, he wants it to revert to the old era of amateurism and incompetence.

Want to take holidays? Take them at Christmas.

Many players are young, with no families. You don't hear English players complaining of having no Christmas holidays like their European counterparts, do you? :confused: :mad:

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It's not ridiculous, it's called ambition. There are many NL people who are ambitious, and want the league to improve.

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It's ridiculous as it's putting the cart before the horse. For most clubs fully pro is unsustainable - a rovers fan should understand that better than most, or have you been asleep the last 10 years, never mind during the pre-400club part of the season???? :eek: