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On Newstalk 106 last night Ken Early announced that he was convinced that the Premiersh!t has lost it's soul. Ken get with the program. It lost it back in 1992. Now it is underperforming on the entertainment stakes as well.
Let's hope the saddos who believe it has lost it's soul will turn their attention to our League and start attending EL which is not completely corrupted by ridiculous money.
I think the major problem is that the cost of tickets is so high now people are expecting to be entertained. When that doesn't happen, they feel robbed, and rightly so.Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
The game is being pushed further away from the working class people who were the passion, life and soul of the terraces. That will eventually be the downfall of the Premiership.
[QUOTE=KarlosIRL]Wenger suffers no more from selective myopia than the idiots who interview him. Arsenal get a player sent off and they ask him about his 50-something red card and discipline probelms that don't exist - you never hear the conversation start with 'so you HAVE had the best behaved team in the premiership for two consequtive years Arsene, what did you think of today's sending off'.
Arsenal did have a terrible discipline problem under Wenger for the first 400 games in charge so I dont know why you are saying it does not exist. However you are right that they have cleaned up their act in the last couple of years and now very rarely get their players in trouble. That willbe aided this year with Viera having left to go to Juventus. Man Utd had a discipline problems when they first starting winning titles in the 1990's also. It does not to your argument any service by saying the problems dont exist.
You've taken me up wrong I'm afraid. No doubt the descipline problems existed at Arsenal up to 3 seasons ago. For 2 seasons running now Arsenal have been top of the fair play league with the current squad of players. What relevance do disiplinary issues have from October 1996 - 2001 have to a whole new batch of players now playing at the club? I'll tell ya, absolutely none and that's why sky reporter questions about discipline problems are badly researched and inaccurate for the currant squad and desereve the answer Wenger usually gives.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
As for Vieira, if i'm not mistaken he's not been sent off in the league since September 2003 (8 sending offs in 9 seasons I believe, one more than Roy Keane overall) and has had an exlempary disiplinary record for the best part of two full seasons. He's gone and suddenly you believe the displine will be aided? What's this based on? :rolleyes:
an awful lot has been made about arsenal's disciplinary record. on the field for the last two years they have been very good, but their reaction to the two matches at old trafford is what people generally remember, and arsenal come out looking very poor because of it.
also the fair play award takes into account style of play as a factor - big advantage to arsenal, as their football is very easy on the eye - unless a team pack their defence a la chelsea ;)
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Originally Posted by ColinR
Indeed the fair play table is calculated based on Red & Yellow cards, Respect towards Opponents, Respect towards Referees, positive play & behaviour of officials.
Interesting enough Arsenal only scored 5 more points than Chelsea last year in the positive play section - You'd have thought it would be higher.
Given the history between United & Arsenal it's also interesting to see that United where in the bottom 5 clubs in with regard to 'Behaviour of Officials' last year and finished 14th overall to Arsenal's 1st. Despite both bad incidents at old Trafford, Arsenal still came out top of the fair play table 2 years running. Not everything you read in the papers is true!!! :) ;) :)
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Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Thought of this tripe last night as I sat watching the master show his worth.
His skill, his positional sense, his sheer pressence!
What a legend!
Worth the admission fee alone.
Yes, indeed, you'd pay double the price to see Denis in full glory like last night although I must concede he was very lucky not be sent off for his tug at the linesman's flag. It's a fine line between violent conduct and dissent and might have gone with another ref. His football however was truley magnificent to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
Great to finally see so many shots at goal - could really feel the crowd urging them to shoot and it paid off. It's one of my biggest critisicms of the team is the amount of shots from range. The variety it introduces to our game is fantastic and causes opposition a lot of problems. So many positives from the game including sorting the corners out and actually crossing the ball more than 6 times! ;)
Speaking of things worth the admission fee, Pascal Cygan, not once but twice!!!! :D
It was done in jest and the linesman had a laugh about it afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlosIRL
He genuinely looked surprised that the ref booked Bergkamp but what did he expect when he went crying to ref about it.
I think Hleb will get more confident and have more shots from range as the season goes on.Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlosIRL
Gilberto will also chip in with a few.
Were you there?Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlosIRL
He's such a liability that even after scoring 2 goals I still found it hard to cheer him. Good night though and good to see the positives you mentioned above.
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Originally Posted by Peadar
To be honest Peadar, it didn't think it looked in jest on the tv replays last night. Initially I thought he just tugged the flag but he actually pulled it out of his hand. Not a clever thing to do and the booking IMO was correct. I know it can be fustrating out there but I expect better self control from Dennis. Saying that the man's a genius and who am I to preach to him! ;)
Hleb seems to be settling in nicely and I was delighted with the efforts from range of Fabregas & gilberto last night. Reyes was a little live wire again as well - he seems have a nasty tackle magnet lodged somewhere in his leg! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
Sadly I wasn't there and problably won't make it to too many more this season before I head off in October. Missus picked a great year for us to emmigrate!! I'd have argued but she's a black belt inb Tae-kwon-do!! :eek: On the plus side, my 6 year old nephew is making the most of his trips to Highbury now! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
The thing was, the linesman gave a goal kick when that was clearly the correct decision. Denis knew that so he couldn't have been angry about anything which would have made him lose his temper.Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlosIRL
I was about 5m away from him and there didn't seem to be any malice.
I have no complaint about the booking though.
The next game that I definitely have tickets for is Everton at home next month but am on a promise of others.
Amazingly the Evrton game is going on general sale this week, first time for a league game in I don't know how long. The lack of new signings appears to have kept some of the 'fly-by-night' fans away whichis a good thing or maybe it's just the monday night is more awkward although it hasn't been a problem before :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
If I were living in England I would probably be a non-League fan or more than Likely I would follow Arsenal's Women's team :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
"School night" games often tend to be easier to get tickets for. Everton were never a crowd puller anyway. A big chunk of the seats available are in the "Away" section of the West Stand. They probably wont bring many fans down with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlosIRL
Well done Ken Early - another bandwagon jumped :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
I doubt it, once it's on the tele. Afterall, even £20 on the cost of their once a season trip means fook all.Quote:
Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie