Semantics debate on use of the word "rape"

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Originally Posted by Sheridan

In fairness, our histrionic hooped friend is employing a valid secondary meaning of the term, not necessarily drawing a comparison with the criminal act.

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WeAreRovers , if you read the posts properly you would see that Sheridan , agreed with use of the word.

Didn't the guy who ran Ryanair say a similar thing when he got a bargain for airplane engines?? I don't recall paople going mad over that?

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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

Which comment?

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This one:

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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

Ringo and Sheridan - Maybe the money you lot save on Pat Deans' wages could be spent on a dictionary and the next time the two of you and Seery are travelling to an away game you could read the bleedin' thing.

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You were just using this issue as an opportunity to troll. Don't do it again.

adam

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Originally Posted by superfrank

Didn't the guy who ran Ryanair say a similar thing when he got a bargain for airplane engines?? I don't recall paople going mad over that?

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That's somewhat ironic.
When GPA went under and Ryan had to sell it to GE for a song, the alleged conversation between Ryan and Jack Welch went something like this:
Ryan: This isn't business, it's rape
Welch: Well you shouldn't go around with your trousers down then.

(BTW, I understand Ringo's position but agree that use of the term is valid.)

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Originally Posted by monutdfc

That's somewhat ironic.
When GPA went under and Ryan had to sell it to GE for a song, the alleged conversation between Ryan and Jack Welch went something like this:
Ryan: This isn't business, it's rape
Welch: Well you shouldn't go around with your trousers down then.

(BTW, I understand Ringo's position but agree that use of the term is valid.)

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:eek: Oh no.

I believe the Ryanair guy said: We raped them!!

I can understand why Ringo might find that one offensive.

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Originally Posted by superfrank

:eek: Oh no.

I believe the Ryanair guy said: We raped them!!

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Different transaction - that's why I thought it ironic O'Leary using the expression years later

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Originally Posted by monutdfc

Different transaction - that's why I thought it ironic O'Leary using the expression years later

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Well I dont think that anyone would put it passed him (from the business point of view of course!)

I also sympathise with Ringo but believe that the word was used in the correct context, the allegy with City murdering Rovers hit the nail on the head.

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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

Ringo and Sheridan - Maybe the money you lot save on Pat Deans' wages could be spent on a dictionary and the next time the two of you and Seery are travelling to an away game you could read the bleedin' thing.

To object to the word rape in that context is way, way OTT. Next you'll be giving out if Cork fans say that they 'murdered' Rovers last Friday. They did, 3-0.

KOH

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Nope...no matter how many times I look at that post, I still can't see anything wrong with it... :confused: :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Troy.McClure

the allegy with City murdering Rovers hit the nail on the head.

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I think the word you're looking for is analogy Troy ;)

Nothing wrong with using 'rape' in the context it was used. I'm sorry, but the supposed onus on people today to avoid offending people despite 100% genuine intentions really gets on my wick. How about those (the vast minority) that seek (and find) offence swallow hard and keep their mouths shut? FFS, is the ultimate goal that nobobdy will be inadvertently offended ever again? Pish!

I agree with fosterdollar née Magoo. Some people seem to go out of their way to be offended these days.

(I'm not talking about this particular incident. See the way I had to put that in to avoid offending anyone? :))

adam

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

I agree with fosterdollar née Magoo. Some people seem to go out of their way to be offended these days.

(I'm not talking about this particular incident. See the way I had to put that in to avoid offending anyone? :))

adam

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Maybe I overreacted, but I said what I said & didn’t expect it to develop into this long discussion on the use of the word. I’ve been insulted & slagged off loads of times on this board, as a Home Farm Fingal Everton Dublin City” supporter you have to have a thick skin. I think some people take soccer to seriously (me include sometimes).

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Originally Posted by Ringo

...didn’t expect it to develop into this long discussion on the use of the word...

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Can't you see, Ringo? It's the non-PC revolution. It will not be televised.

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Originally Posted by fosterdollar

I think the word you're looking for is analogy Troy ;)

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