Glentoran v shels

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24/07/2005, 11:17 AM
De Town

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Originally Posted by steveyg2004

Shels ARE a classier, fitter, better side than us, and they are of course full time - Let's be honest Forza, our best two performances last season were against Linfield (3-0 Irish Cup) and Larne away. In those performances, we didn't come close to playing as well as Shels did - They are just superior plain and simple - Their movement is better than ours (at our best), and the quality of their passing is better than ours at our best.

Quite simply, Shel's results in Europe do not lie - Very few teams in Ireland (absolutely none in Northern Ireland) are capable of going on the run Shels did last season.

Linfield beat Shelbourne fair and square in the Setanta Cup Final, but then Manchester City beat Chelsea last season and Burnley beat Liverpool, which is exactly why we had a chance of beating Shelbourne over two legs, but even I was shocked at how naive we were to believe this. Totally outclassed sums it up - Our legend of a captain Paul Leeman was outclassed by Glen Crowe, Darren Lockhart looked out of his depth as well....the 6-2 doesn't lie and this will go down in history as a tie in which the Champions of Southern Ireland gave the Champions of Northern Ireland a complete thrashing. :(

And I totally agree by the way that the fact we are out of season and clearly not fit is irrelevent to the fact that Shelbourne outclassed our players on the pitch over 2 games.

fair play for your honesty :cool:

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Originally Posted by higgins

The Setanta Cup next year will be fun. Hope we see you again.

if ye keep going the way ye are ye wont be in it ;) :D
24/07/2005, 2:00 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by steveyg2004

Our legend of a captain Paul Leeman was outclassed by Glen Crowe, Darren Lockhart looked out of his depth as well....the 6-2 doesn't lie and this will go down in history as a tie in which the Champions of Southern Ireland gave the Champions of Northern Ireland a complete thrashing. :(

It may not be intentional but please don't call us "Southern" Ireland. Check any Atlas. I find it insulting.
24/07/2005, 2:14 PM
steveyg2004

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Originally Posted by pete

It may not be intentional but please don't call us "Southern" Ireland. Check any Atlas. I find it insulting.

Oh for Christ sake, will you wise up, you pedantic arsewipe! How many f*cking times is it referred to as North V South in a sporting context. So what is your preference then, Eire, Southern Ireland, the South, the Republic of Ireland, or just 'Ireland'? :rolleyes:

I suddenly have a strong desire to see anyone, be it Shels or Derry, overhaul Cork's 11 point lead and ensure they are still trophyless since 1984 at the end of the season! ;)
24/07/2005, 2:34 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by steveyg2004

Oh for Christ sake, will you wise up, you pedantic arsewipe! How many f*cking times is it referred to as North V South in a sporting context. So what is your preference then, Eire, Southern Ireland, the South, the Republic of Ireland, or just 'Ireland'? :rolleyes:

I suddenly have a strong desire to see anyone, be it Shels or Derry, overhaul Cork's 11 point lead and ensure they are still trophyless since 1984 at the end of the season! ;)

If you want to continue posting here attack the post not the poster.

Would you be offended if i said Glentoran were Champions of the Occupied Counties?

Can we just stick with the eL & IL?

:rolleyes:
24/07/2005, 3:00 PM
steveyg2004

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Originally Posted by pete

If you want to continue posting here attack the post not the poster.

Would you be offended if i said Glentoran were Champions of the Occupied Counties?

Can we just stick with the eL & IL?

:rolleyes:

Let's not be silly - The post wasn't being a pedantic arsewipe, you were. ;)
I simply can't believe someone could take issue with me saying 'Southern Ireland' - And if you said 'the occupied territories', I would know what country you were referring to. Let's not imply that it was I that brought a whiff of politics to this. Taking issue with 'Southern Ireland', well I bloody never!!! :(
24/07/2005, 3:05 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by steveyg2004

Let's not be silly - The post wasn't being a pedantic arsewipe, you were. ;)

Do you want a Ban?
24/07/2005, 3:06 PM
Buller

ladies, ladies... calm down! it doesnt matter! Lets get back to posting about football and not petty political issue's... ;)
24/07/2005, 5:02 PM
steveyg2004

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Originally Posted by pete

Do you want a Ban?

Are you capable of dishing out a ban, Mr. Pedantic? :)
24/07/2005, 5:32 PM
steveyg2004

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Originally Posted by Conor74

It's not pedantic to point out that there is no such place as 'Southern Ireland'. Nor, in fairness, do I think Pete was implying anything overtly political about it.

Anyway, back to the game...

Fair enough, though I am still surprised anyone finds it offensive.....had to swallow quite hard while I posted the bit about Shels giving us a thrashing, didn't see the 'Southern Ireland' thing coming to be honest.

Hay ho, back to the game as you say.......So Pete, fancy getting Liam Millar on loan? :D
24/07/2005, 7:06 PM
BohDiddley

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Originally Posted by steveyg2004

I am still surprised anyone finds it offensive

Kindergarten stuff Pete. Have to say, I'm surprised too. At this stage you'd think we were past that level of crap.
24/07/2005, 7:20 PM
BohDiddley

Jesus wept. Are you living in a country called the 1950s?
24/07/2005, 7:29 PM
Poor Student

I think people should cop on here. I for one welcome the posters here from the Irish league as they offer a bit of variety, a different view point and are a sign of the forging links between fans of our two leagues. We shouldn't be jumping on them for a slight slip of the tongue.
24/07/2005, 7:49 PM
steveyg2004

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

I think people should cop on here. I for one welcome the posters here from the Irish league as they offer a bit of variety, a different view point and are a sign of the forging links between fans of our two leagues. We shouldn't be jumping on them for a slight slip of the tongue.

I have to admit I wouldn't normally refer to 'Southern Ireland', I only used the phrase by way of contrast between the Champions of the North, and Champions of the South. Boy, do I regret using it now!! :( Certainly, the phrase that someone is from 'the North' or from 'the South' is still in regular use, and to my knowledge is always understood and by and large inoffensive to people. I think it's time to move on from this though.

By the way, since the development of the Setanta Cup there has been a massive influx of new posters from Eire on Irish League Forums. It's all good! :cool:
24/07/2005, 7:55 PM
Poor Student

Stevey it should probably be said in the spirit of things you probably shouldn't fly off the handle as quick as you did either. I think if there's one thing that's common on this island it's the sense for craic and a laugh, we should lighten up a bit.
24/07/2005, 8:34 PM
steveyg2004

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

Stevey it should probably be said in the spirit of things you probably shouldn't fly off the handle as quick as you did either. I think if there's one thing that's common on this island it's the sense for craic and a laugh, we should lighten up a bit.

All true!
24/07/2005, 8:46 PM
TonyD

Think I'm with SteveyG on this one. We regularly refer to the North, or Northern Ireland, doesn't that make us the South ? OK, it's not the official name of the country, but please :rolleyes: Could we lighten up a little. And remember it was Pete, not Stevie who brought the politics into it. Surely we want to encourage posters from the Irish League, not turn them away ?
24/07/2005, 9:08 PM
Anto McC

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Originally Posted by TonyD

Think I'm with SteveyG on this one. We regularly refer to the North, or Northern Ireland, doesn't that make us the South ? OK, it's not the official name of the country, but please :rolleyes: Could we lighten up a little. And remember it was Pete, not Stevie who brought the politics into it. Surely we want to encourage posters from the Irish League, not turn them away ?

I'm with SteveyG and TonyD on this one
24/07/2005, 10:15 PM
steveyg2004

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Originally Posted by steveyg2004

Oh for Christ sake, will you wise up, you pedantic arsewipe! How many f*cking times is it referred to as North V South in a sporting context. So what is your preference then, Eire, Southern Ireland, the South, the Republic of Ireland, or just 'Ireland'? :rolleyes:

I suddenly have a strong desire to see anyone, be it Shels or Derry, overhaul Cork's 11 point lead and ensure they are still trophyless since 1984 at the end of the season! ;)

Still, I think a nice, cosy 'Friends' type response of "Could you be any more pedantic?" was more appropriate. A little too much anger in that post, apologies. :o

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