Glentoran v Shelbourne

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Referee, incidentally, was appalling (again... :rolleyes: Wasn't it the same lad from the Ireland-Israel game last month?) - Glentoran should have had three red cards - one for the elbow, one for the penalty (last man) and one for McCallion for deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow (and Hoolihan was booked for the exact same thing just minutes before). Ref bottled it on every single occasion.

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The ref was Greek what can you expect?

All credit to Shelbourne the return leg should be interesting. Glentoran have to over come 2 away goals easier said than done.

a deserved shels win a match where both keepers played very well , i thought the scoreline flattered glentoran some bit though

what did people think of the punditry ? thought dolan and matthews came across really well

He was according to your official site + no mention of him being injured in the build up.

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Originally Posted by exile

a deserved shels win a match where both keepers played very well , i thought the scoreline flattered glentoran some bit though

what did people think of the punditry ? thought dolan and matthews came across really well

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Yes Dolan is an excellent pundit. Mattews brought a seriousness to the occasion. Don't think Dolan gave Shels enough credit though and played too much emphasis on the fitness issue. The fitness was a big difference but Shels were the better team overall.

Really enjoyed the game. Even my mother enjoyed it. :confused:

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Originally Posted by harry crumb

Don't think Dolan gave Shels enough credit though

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That doesn't sound like him :eek: :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by harry crumb

Really enjoyed the game. Even my mother enjoyed it. :confused:

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have to say enjoyed it as well it still feels wierd though enjoying a match involving an el team from the comfort of your own home :eek:

I thought Dolan was an arse, especially the post-match comments. We all know that given free reign Pat would spend his way to oblivion and has nearly managed it on a few occasions. So what if the Glens aren't a fulltime team? Try showing Roy Coyle your trophies Pat...

Its a fine line between informed analysis and preaching, and he danced right through that line.

He's like a chocolate cake, alright every once in a while but you get sick of it if you have it every week.

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

He's like a chocolate cake, alright every once in a while but you get sick of it if you have it every week.

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and quote of the week goes too ................ :D

I know I'm a bit slow but what was that crack he made about spam?? :confused:

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

He's like a chocolate cake, alright every once in a while but you get sick of it if you have it every week.

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I would have thought Dolan himself was a living refutation of that principle.

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Originally Posted by sirhamish

I know I'm a bit slow but what was that crack he made about spam?? :confused:

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Their was an advertising board saying spam on it , and whats with all these advertisment board's in the irish league having jesus on them, the one in portadown had jesus loves you ......... (insert witty remark here)

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Originally Posted by Sheridan

I would have thought Dolan himself was a living refutation of that principle.

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You are what you eat...so it just adds further credence
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Enjoyable enough game. Play was poor from both sides in the first quarter of the game with Shels dominating. Shels put some nice moves together in the latter part of the 1st half and should have been ahead. Glens were severely unimpressive. For the main part of the 2nd half Shels dominated and played some nice stuff carving out some nice chances. Great work by Crowe for the 1st goal. Winning the ball with his determination and bravey, drove forward strongly into the Glens end and picked out Byrne well who stuck it home perfectly. Also did well to win the peno perfectly placed and hit by Byrne. Disappointing to let Glens back into it. Was a well placed goal though. The referee was poor. I counted two red cards for Glens, the elbow and the peno (last man back). Shels were impressive, pity they have left the result so tight for next week. They really stepped it up compared to their performance against Pat's at Richmond. They should do it in Dublin but who knows? The Irish League sides did show in the Sentanta they can potentially take an eL side on their day no matter where the game is played.

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Originally Posted by exile

Their was an advertising board saying spam on it , and whats with all these advertisment board's in the irish league having jesus on them, the one in portadown had jesus loves you ......... (insert witty remark here)

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I suppose that's how good the game was - I didn't notice any sideline adverts. I'll leave the witty remarks to your good self - I've suffered enough at the hands of you Corky Boys on Footie with your witticisms already. :D

Thanks exile for the info in any case. ;)

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Originally Posted by exile

Their was an advertising board saying spam on it , and whats with all these advertisment board's in the irish league having jesus on them, the one in portadown had jesus loves you ......... (insert witty remark here)

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I think I read here before that the Free Presbyterian Church is responsible for these.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Cracking game; fair dues to Glentoran for making a game of it for the last quarter of an hour, though the game should have been buried by then. Referee, incidentally, was appalling (again... :rolleyes: Wasn't it the same lad from the Ireland-Israel game last month?) - Glentoran should have had three red cards - one for the elbow, one for the penalty (last man) and one for McCallion for deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow (and Hoolihan was booked for the exact same thing just minutes before). Ref bottled it on every single occasion.

Why didn't Ndo come on? He played against us, which is a few weeks ago now, so he must be fully fit by now. He'd have been perfect for a game like that against tiring and demoralised part-timers - would have torn them apart.

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Using your logic, Shels #15 should have been off, having attempted to con the ref on two separate occasions.

Also, there was a time towards the end of the first half, when the Glens were all over Shels, and had won a throw deep in Shels territory. In order to kill the obvious momentum we had generated by that point, Shels #3 decided to simply sit on the ground and demand treatment, rather than walk all of TWO YARDS to the sideline! Fair play to the official for catching on to his little game and telling him to get up.

Sadly, the poor fella was "unable" to, and allowed the game to be held up while the stretcher bearers were forced to make their way to him from the other side of the pitch, just to carry him that whole TWO YARDS!! He wasn't the only Shels player who seemed to have a problem staying on his feet either!

As for the game itself, there is no doubt Shels were better, and that we rode our luck at times. The reason for Shels superiority is quite clearly because of their match fitness. Had the Glens been at the same stage in our season, I believe we would have won, and fairly convincingly at that. No question, Shels are a good side, but by no means are they excellent. I would just love to see a game between our sides when we're both in the middle of our seasons.

Bottom line- this tie is far from over. If Shels think it's over, they have another thing coming.

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Originally Posted by Forza Glentoran

Also, there was a time towards the end of the first half, when the Glens were all over Shels, and had won a throw deep in Shels territory. In order to kill the obvious momentum we had generated by that point, Shels #3 decided to simply sit on the ground and demand treatment, rather than walk all of TWO YARDS to the sideline! Fair play to the official for catching on to his little game and telling him to get up.

Sadly, the poor fella was "unable" to, and allowed the game to be held up while the stretcher bearers were forced to make their way to him from the other side of the pitch, just to carry him that whole TWO YARDS!! He wasn't the only Shels player who seemed to have a problem staying on his feet either!

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That "fella" was Crawley who I believe subsequently had to be taken off as he could not complete the game. I think he had been whacked by a tackle of one of your players a few mins earlier.

If you think the only difference between the sides out their was merely fitness and had Glentoran been mid season they would have 'won, and fairly convincingly at that' you're fairly deluded. You played Longford in your season and would have lost on away goals, the time of the season starting wouldn't change a completley one sided game into a completley one sided game the other way, that's completley and totally daft.

Fitness helped, of course, but there was a hell of alot more between the sides than that.

Wasn't there some Glens fan on here talking about how they were training intensely for the first half of the season?

they said on the box tonite that they came back for training 2 weeks ago mattews and dolan reckon that thats not good enough for a team hoping to progress