I didnt think Doc did ANYTHING when he came on!Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
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I didnt think Doc did ANYTHING when he came on!Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Although it is hard to judge on last night's performance given the quality of the opposition and the quality of football that Ireland played, he looked encouraging and now, without doubt, should have been brought on for Robbie.
I think he did the off the ball things well, the running was superb and he made the most of trying to steal a march on the Faroes defence, whereas maybe others would have lacked the invention. OK, the miss was a glaring one, but hopefully that will never happen again and he did as well as possible with the run and shot saved by the keeper.
Obviously though, not worrying Clinton too much just yet. For the next qualifying campaign I think we will see more of Elliott at the forefront.
For what its worth, I believe Reid would have ran Elliott very close for that MOTM award. He was our only outlet going forward and it was Reid's effort which led to the keeper spilling to Elliott. Maybe this puts the fitness questions surrounding him to bed and Kerr might consider keeping him on for a bit longer now and then.
Also, I would have liked to have seen more substitutes come on last night. 2-0 up with 10 minutes to go, we could afford to give McCarthy a run out and collect his debut and see Steven Reid back into the fold, as Duff really was out on his feet. There's the argument that caps shouldn't just be given out like confetti, and that there has to be respect for the Faroes, but they weren't going to score 2 and this happens all the time in club football. If the lads have extended their season for a few weeks just for these games, perhaps it'd have been encouraging to give one or two more of them a look at competitive action.
Overall, last night was alright. The team were knackered. Someone else said that the Faroes is a banana skin waiting for somebody, and they are. I'm just thankful we got our 6 points from them and can move on.
Ade
Lets hope its Israel that slip on that particular banana skin.
It was against the faroes but why were duff and keane and morrison so bad then if it was only the faroes ? 2 awful misses did not see them ... one where he hit the post was not as easy as it lucked and the other chance i think you mean the one where he got it off the keeper was unlucky .... give the lad credit ffs .Quote:
Originally Posted by carnstien
Good point. Regardless of who it was against Elliott played better than nearly every other Irish player.
I'm not saying he was bad, I just don't think his performance was as incredible as people are making out. Personally I think he was woeful in the first half and improved significantly in the second. And yes he was better than the likes of Duff and Keane, who were, as you pointed out dreadful.Quote:
Originally Posted by zinedineontour
I just think its crazy that people are suggesting that he replace Morrison on the back of one reasonable performace against The Faroe Islands!
I'm not sure how technically gifted Elliot is but he really looked like he wanted to play. He showed for the ball so much and could often be found winning it in our own half! I like Clinton and I think his record for Ireland speaks for itself but Elliot should definitely be brought closer to the first-team. The only thing is that, at the moment, he seems like an inferior version of both Robbie and Clinton. When we bring on the Doc, it's to offer an aerial presence in the last 20 minutes. If we were to bring on Elliot, what could he offer that Robbie or Clinton don't already offer in spades? I was delighted to see him play and I think he'll feature more and more but that would be my only concern. His attitude seems excellent.
I agree i would still play clinton against the french ... just give us a viable option if things are not working out up front ..took elliott a while to get into game but was very impressive in second half ..Quote:
Originally Posted by carnstien
Elliott is going to need about 10-15 games at international level before he becomes really good. he should get as many games as possible IMO. he has a lot more speed than clint or robbie. he looks at his best when we hit them on the break and play a quick ball to elliott. he has to work on his physic though.
Clint has done well for us but i think he is a bit lazy or something.. he isnt really trying at club level
Kerr will probably still start with Robbie and Clinton in the Italy game in August, I'd imagine the starting XI from that game will start against France (barring injury and suspension), but I do expect Elliott to play some part in the Italy game, and should be a member of every squad from here on in
Just a cautionary note on Elliott. I remember Connolly against Romania in Bucharest. He was brilliant that day - we played the dreaded 5 across the middle if I recall correctly and Connolly was everywhere up front and played a strormer. The rest, as they say, is history :(
A lot will depend on whether he gets a run in the Sunderland team and scores on a regular basis. I'm not sure he's the Messiah yet. One swallow (the bird!!) doesn't make a summer.
From FIFA.com after the World Youth Cup in 2003, when FIFA selected 12 players from the tournament, Elliott being one, likely to be a future star.
Stephen Eliott (IRL):
If anyone was ever born with an eye for goal, it is this young lad. A tireless worker up front for the Irish, the Manchester City forward impressed by virtue of his clinical finishing. Popping up as if from nowhere, he chalked up 3 goals, include a splendid angled header against Saudi Arabia. No slouch, he is also physically fine-tuned and blessed with a cool head in front of goal. Gerry Smith, coach of the Greens is effusive in his praise of his young colt: “Eliott is a genuine goalscorer, a boy who can get you a goal at any time and in any way,” he enthused after the match against the Ivorians.
I know I'm biased but Elliott is the most instinctive goalscorer we've produced in years. Outside the box or tap ins, right foot, left foot. This guy has it lads, i'm telling yiz, I really believe it. Even the way he shrugged off the Farooe defenders, despite being pulled & took a direct beeline for goal on Wednesday was really encouraging in my view.
Why are you biased ? You a Black Cats fan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Let's hope you're right.
Irish bias only.
Kerr quote on ElliotQuote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
"In the game against Celtic and in the two to three days before the game with Israel, I felt he didn't look sharp and the break at the end of the season had not done him any good," reflected Kerr.
"But in training ahead of this game he did, and with the opposition, and less pressure away from home, I felt he would have more of a chance to show what he could do, and he did it nicely."