Impressed by Church of Ireland

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Originally Posted by Gerrit

With the smiley in your post it's difficult to see if this war irony or not...

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Sorry-it was sincere

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Originally Posted by Gerrit

Research showed us that many people following a religion in which sex before marriage is forbidden or anticonception is forbidden, have 5 times more anal intercourse than others. Given the health risks of this form of sex, I doubt that the religions forbidding condom or pill have fully researched the topic.

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Gerrit, where the hell did you hear that? :eek: That's rotten! :eek: :eek:

im sorry i cant beleive that either.

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

I'm pretty sure that the withdrawal method (aka coitus interruptus) is the only form of contraception endorsed by the catholic church.

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Thought that wasn't allowed either.

in my (very) limited experience I have found it to be true that are more progressive and more vocal elements in the COI. But its also true to say that some Catholic priests would be even more progressive and straight-talking, unfortunately for them, the quasi-facist hierarchy of that church usually forces them into silence.

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

I'm pretty sure that the withdrawal method (aka coitus interruptus) is the only form of contraception endorsed by the catholic church.

adam

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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't this all about 'every sp-rm is sacred' ? If that is the case then the above method is just as big a waste! So does this mean that you have a wet dream that you are in the bad books?

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Originally Posted by Shelsman

So does this mean that you have a wet dream that you are in the bad books?

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If you had borrowed my sleeping bag, then yes :eek:

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So does this mean that you have a wet dream that you are in the bad books?

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you are fooked, if so shelsman

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Originally Posted by Shelsman

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't this all about 'every sp-rm is sacred' ? If that is the case then the above method is just as big a waste! So does this mean that you have a wet dream that you are in the bad books?

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Isn't it just the Rhythm Method that is allowed, abstaining during ovulation.?

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Originally Posted by Shelsman

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't this all about 'every sp-rm is sacred' ? If that is the case then the above method is just as big a waste! So does this mean that you have a wet dream that you are in the bad books?

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You'll go straight to hell with those wet dreams Shelsman! :D

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Isn't it just the Rhythm Method that is allowed, abstaining during ovulation.?

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is that your method? did you clarify that with the local priest? and why have the capital letters? i actually have to say, it is credit to the posters on this forum that this subject has remained in good taste without any defamation etc. :cool:

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

is that your method? did you clarify that with the local priest? and why have the capital letters? i actually have to say, it is credit to the posters on this forum that this subject has remained in good taste without any defamation etc. :cool:

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:mad: :D

The priest wasn't too keen at first, but he's ok with it now. We just have 6 children ;) :D

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We just have 6 children

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it worked well then! ye would have had a lot more otherwise!

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

it worked well then! ye would have had a lot more otherwise!

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:D :eek: :D

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Originally Posted by Shelsman

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't this all about 'every sp-rm is sacred' ? If that is the case then the above method is just as big a waste! So does this mean that you have a wet dream that you are in the bad books?

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Sperm arn't sacred-that's a misconception (helped along by Monty Python).
Catholicism teaches that human life is sacred and that human life begins at the moment of conception.
The issue is that sex should be for the pupouse of reproduction i.e. if you are having sex it is up to God whether a baby is concieved or not-otherwise you are right, a wet dream would be genocide-which it is not.

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The issue is that sex should be for the pupouse of reproduction

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see thats where wording helps out, technically what you are saying is that the catholic church only condone sex in the case that you are trying to reproduce, but it is up to god whether you are successful, so you can have sex as much as you want under the pretense that you are trying to conceive. is that correct?

see that is where i thought that you were only allowed to have sex to reproduce i.e. around ovulation time.

that also makes sense as the point about ivf treatment is now being raised by the government, because the church see it as "improper intervention", as its god s choice whether or not you should conceive or whether a child is to be created even. is that correct all-knowning liam? :p

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

all-knowning liam?

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:confused: :(

sorry liam i was only messin, you seem to know so i was just wondering sorry :o

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

I'm pretty sure that the withdrawal method (aka coitus interruptus) ...

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AKA in my crib as 'The John Holmes Method.' :D

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Originally Posted by samuel

Rome issued a statement a few years back written by Cardinal Ratsinger (who is now the Pope) which stated that the other Christian churches are
not churches in the proper sense and are not recieving the christian faith in its entirety.

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You'll find most religions are like that. Talking 'happy, feely' with the CoI is one thing. Try the same with the Free Presbyterians or the Jehovah's Witnesses next time they knock on your door about the virtues of the RC church and they'll both claim you follow 'the whore of Rome,' as mentioned in the book of Revelations.

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Originally Posted by Gerrit

Research showed us that many people following a religion in which sex before marriage is forbidden or anticonception is forbidden, have 5 times more anal intercourse than others. Given the health risks of this form of sex, I doubt that the religions forbidding condom or pill have fully researched the topic.

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Actually I'd agree that there is some truth to this. Don't know about research but anecdotal evidence suggests that the 'silver ring thing' being promoted in the US as a Christian alternative to pre-marital sex increases oral sex (and some anal sex). I think, like most things, people should take a responsible approach to this subject, in this case to sex before marriage.

Bejaysus ...we're on page three and no ones ****ed in the holy water yet.

Good going you guys and gals.

I think it was Dylan Thomas who said "You must respect the other fellows religious belief -but only as far as you respect his belief that his wife is pretty and his children intelligent."

let's keep that in mind and we'll all be fine.

The late JP2 of the RCC had less than no interest whatsoever in ecumenism. His vision of uniting the christian church involved the other christian churches -be they protestant, Eastern Orthodox, gnostic or Cathar -copping on to themselves and coming back into the fold.

As for any of those churches uniting within our lifetime -I'd say you'd get meaner odds down the bookies on any of them ceasing to exist within our lifetime.