Ground Re-Admittance in LOI

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02/06/2018, 12:33 PM
sbgawa

I've arrived late due to work to a couple of rovers home matches one just on half time and 1 just aftwr and just walked in through one of the gates. Had my season ticket in my pocket but wasn't asked for it. Don't know if there is a policy or was it just two individual relaxed stewards.
02/06/2018, 12:46 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by micls

There is no issue with stadium overcrowding, it has never happened to my knowledge, or never been highlighted as an issue. I'm still not sure what your concerns around it are, but they certainly haven't been raised by anyone involved in match nights at Turners Cross.

Wow.

No one has been hurt before so therefore any potential stadium overcrowding is not an issue.

I sincerely hope that the people involved in match nights and responsible for health and safety at Turners Cross do not adopt that attitude

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Originally Posted by micls

It was also not given as the reason for this ban. You're literally the only person to mention it. You simply seem to be making stuff up as issues for some reason. Not saying any more sounds like a good plan, as you're ignoring the actual reason for the ban, and the understandable frustration the incident last night caused, to argue about phrasing and imaginary safety issues.

I don't know what the reasons are for the ban that your club have imposed, but responded to your (rather naive) question about the safety issues around allowing the same entry ticket to be used multiple times.
02/06/2018, 2:57 PM
micls

Well the not responding didn't last long.

Stadium overcrowding isn't an issue because stadium overcrowding isn't an issue. Even on the incredible off chance that your scam scenario happened and a handful of extra people got in, theres literally room for a 1000 extra people, seated, in the stadium than our allowable capacity. I'm sure the few imaginary extra people will manage OK in the event of an emergency exit needed.

I won't be concerned about your imaginary safety issues that have never been highlighted as an issue and were not part of the decision making process. Feel free to be horrified by our lack of concern about them.
02/06/2018, 3:33 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by micls

Well the not responding didn't last long.

Stadium overcrowding isn't an issue because stadium overcrowding isn't an issue. Even on the incredible off chance that your scam scenario happened and a handful of extra people got in, theres literally room for a 1000 extra people, seated, in the stadium than our allowable capacity. I'm sure the few imaginary extra people will manage OK in the event of an emergency exit needed.

I won't be concerned about your imaginary safety issues that have never been highlighted as an issue and were not part of the decision making process. Feel free to be horrified by our lack of concern about them.

I doubt your attitude to safety or ignorance on ticket entry scams is mirrored by those responsible for safe-holding certification or other stadium health and safety issues at Turners Cross - so little need for concern

Scanning of tickets and preventing multiple entry on the same ticket is a fairly basic safety and security concept in stadia worldwide and more so since Hillsborough and other stadium disasters.
02/06/2018, 5:25 PM
outspoken

Not an issue in Longford often needed to go out to the car at HT to get a jacket etc. although I can see why clubs don�t allow it but in the case at cork last night a lack of common sense could end up costing them a loyal fan
02/06/2018, 11:28 PM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by Mr A

I got a pint in last time I was there :)

There was a rugger ball thing on so loads of really dressed up folks and I had a Mexican wrestling mask on so looked like a psychopath and it was great.

Spice Bags!!!

At the UCD Bowl there are regular fans that leave at HT and return on 55' with spice bags from a convenient take away.

I'm glad you sourced refreshments on your last visit to UCD Bowl. Was the rugger reference an in-joke on this messageboard?
03/06/2018, 2:17 AM
Charlie Darwin

I had assumed all the bigger grounds didn't allow re-admittance. You can't really be dealing with dozens or more leaving and coming back a few minutes later and checking tickets all over again, etc. Can understand why the likes of UCD just wouldn't bother.
03/06/2018, 2:18 AM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

At the UCD Bowl there are regular fans that leave at HT and return on 55' with spice bags from a convenient take away.

If there's that many of them they should really pay the €2 delivery and save the hassle of missing ten minutes.
03/06/2018, 8:38 AM
HarpoJoyce

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

If there's that many of them they should really pay the €2 delivery and save the hassle of missing ten minutes.

The delivery service may be charged entry. Or food storage bag(s) searched risking other food deliveries to cool down.
These are challenges other clubs don't appear to have otherwise they would have been mentioned by now.
03/06/2018, 9:42 AM
Nesta99

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I had assumed all the bigger grounds didn't allow re-admittance. You can't really be dealing with dozens or more leaving and coming back a few minutes later and checking tickets all over again, etc. Can understand why the likes of UCD just wouldn't bother.

With the smoking ban The Aviva allows people leave and re-enter. I have seen similar arrangements in England and Spain. Now it isnt leaving past the security cordon to need searching all over again but if a parent wanted to a child picked up the child could be watched going through the security in to the care of another adult and then head back to their seat..
03/06/2018, 12:14 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I had assumed all the bigger grounds didn't allow re-admittance. You can't really be dealing with dozens or more leaving and coming back a few minutes later and checking tickets all over again, etc. Can understand why the likes of UCD just wouldn't bother.

Last season, I'd say there were maybe 50/60 people that would head out at half time, for drinks, or food. Never seemed an issue, ticket scanners were still there anyway. The club never saw it as a problem.

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

I doubt your attitude to safety or ignorance on ticket entry scams is mirrored by those responsible for safe-holding certification or other stadium health and safety issues at Turners Cross - so little need for concern

Scanning of tickets and preventing multiple entry on the same ticket is a fairly basic safety and security concept in stadia worldwide and more so since Hillsborough and other stadium disasters.

Right. That's why the rule was only implemented this season and was never an issue previously?
03/06/2018, 12:39 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by micls

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

I doubt your attitude to safety or ignorance on ticket entry scams is mirrored by those responsible for safe-holding certification or other stadium health and safety issues at Turners Cross - so little need for concern

Scanning of tickets and preventing multiple entry on the same ticket is a fairly basic safety and security concept in stadia worldwide and more so since Hillsborough and other stadium disasters.

Right. That's why the rule was only implemented this season and was never an issue previously?

You are getting beyond the point of ridiculous - I have repeatedly told you that I have no idea why your club introduced this rule, but have responded to your questions on general stadium safety issues and security scams. Maybe you missed the post:

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

I don't know what the reasons are for the ban that your club have imposed, but responded to your (rather naive) question about the safety issues around allowing the same entry ticket to be used multiple times.
03/06/2018, 6:09 PM
redarmyfaction

Maybe it's a Dundalk ting but Ezeikial seems to have feuds going on than the INLA IPLO had in their history.
03/06/2018, 6:38 PM
ToberonaTornado

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Originally Posted by redarmyfaction

Maybe it's a Dundalk ting but Ezeikial seems to have feuds going on than the INLA IPLO had in their history.

Why would it be a DUNDALK thing? Lazy stereotyping on show right there:rolleyes:

(PS:want to buy any red/green?)
03/06/2018, 6:54 PM
Yossarian

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Originally Posted by redarmyfaction

Maybe it's a Dundalk ting but Ezeikial seems to have feuds going on than the INLA IPLO had in their history.

Well then in true INLA fashion I would expect him to have a bitterly divisive row with himself very soon!
03/06/2018, 7:42 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

You are getting beyond the point of ridiculous - I have repeatedly told you that I have no idea why your club introduced this rule, but have responded to your questions on general stadium safety issues and security scams. Maybe you missed the post:

Yes, I've read your continuous posts about potential safety issues which have never happened, were not a concern to the club and weren't part of the decision making process, despite you claiming you were going to stop taking about it.

Thanks.
03/06/2018, 9:58 PM
redarmyfaction

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Originally Posted by Yossarian

Well then in true INLA fashion I would expect him to have a bitterly divisive row with himself very soon!

I believe the last standing member of the IPLO(Marxist-Leninist) beat himself to death with a hammer in punishment beating gone wrong, so a big shout out to Zeke and be careful brother.
03/06/2018, 10:27 PM
Ezeikial

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03/06/2018, 10:33 PM
Ezeikial

Douglas Jerrold combining Obtuse and Hammer references seems strangely appropriate

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04/06/2018, 12:52 AM
corkery

It's a ridiculous rule. It was never a problem before. The board of management didn't want to bring this in. It was the Gardai that forced it. They have tried to get the decision overturned.

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