Amhrán na bhFiann

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Originally Posted by Eire06

The portagease (*spelling) managed to sing over them why couldn't we

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sorry... dont get me wrong, i'm not excusing it at all. its just that it might help if people were able to hear others actually singing it. they may be more inclined to join in then. also, i genuinely believe that most people dont know all the words.... might be an idea to scroll the words accross the electronic scoreboard while the band plays

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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

These are the very same people who belt out Ireland's Call and rave about Brian O'D roysh.

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I've been to a lot of rugby internationals as well as soccer ones and I can assure you that much more rugby fans sing the anthems (both of them in rugby) than soccer fans.

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Originally Posted by holidaysong

I was singing Amhrán na bhFiann last night as loud as I could before the game and noted that I was nearly the only one around me singing it and also I noticed some people giving me odd looks and nudging their friends and nodding over at me as if I was singing some weird unheard of song..I almost felt embarrassed singing our National Anthem FFS! :confused:

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Just backs up my arguements on other threads. most in attendence probably dont know the words.


maybe we should sing god save the queen instead :mad:

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Originally Posted by Eire06

Something really has to be done about it

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maybe they could play it on Sky Sports or on Match of the Day, so all the "Irish" fans could get used to hearing it :rolleyes:

It's a bloody disgrace alright

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Originally Posted by Cowboy

it should not be played in a drinking enviroment at 2.00 am where is does not get the respect it deserves.

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apart from anything else, it's actually illegal to play it anywhere where alcohol is being served. Another example of the respect we show it :rolleyes:

I hated learning Irish when I was in school, probably because I found it difficult :o . Now I'm doing my best to learn Irish again, because I think to quote 'Tuff Paddy' "That language is now pretty much the only thing that makes us different".

I've always stood with my hands behind my back when singing the Anthem, its just something I've always seen the older generation do I don't know why.

and personally I think Ireland's Call is a disgrace, at the Italian game last sunday they didn't even play Amhran na bhFiann :mad:

This country is becoming more like england everyday. On RTE news today they had a full report on prince charles getting engaged, on TV3 they even had a poll, who f**kin' cares he has nothing to do with this country :mad:

[QUOTE=JGKyne]and personally I think Ireland's Call is a disgrace, at the Italian game last sunday they didn't even play Amhran na bhFiann :mad:

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It is never played at away rugby games as the team represents the whole island. Indeed home games in Northern Ireland would see God Save the Queen and Ireland's Call played for us and the Union Jack flown for us. Hasn't happened since 1954 but Ravenhill is long overdue an Irish International since Thomond Park has hosted a couple. I suspect the above will be changed before Ravenhill does get to host a game btw but if it hosted a game tomorrow that is what would happen. It actually caused controversy back in 1954 too as one player stayed in the dressingroom until the anthems were finished. Ireland's only Grand Slam was won with a Corkman scoring the winning try playing under the UJ and GSTQ at Ravenhill in 1948

I go to all the home rugby games and would disagree that the anthem is sung with more passion than at football. I think it is down to the big occasion and wednesday night was still a friendly and it doesn't really matter - I'd gladly take defeats at home to China and Italy if we could be guaranteed wins over Israel and France.

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Originally Posted by Conor74

Round these parts, if the anthem of a foreign country came on the telly, I would certainly stay quiet if someone politely asked me.

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would you have to be asked to do this ?

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

sorry... dont get me wrong, i'm not excusing it at all. its just that it might help if people were able to hear others actually singing it. they may be more inclined to join in then. also, i genuinely believe that most people dont know all the words.... might be an idea to scroll the words accross the electronic scoreboard while the band plays

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Just thinking back on it now it could have been the crowd at the match cause over in Paris we managed to sing it so it could be heard.... Mind you we gave the French anthem a good blast too....

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Originally Posted by pronane

i think there is a difference between chile playing fiji on tele in a pub in ireland or england compared to ireland playing in an irish pub in england..

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is there though? what if your Greek/Indian guests were actually Chilean/Fijian, same difference if you ask me, the point Conor is making is that they didn't neccessarily recognise the National anthem and that was the reason for the lack of 'respect'.

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Originally Posted by Conor74

Certainly, if Chile were playing Fiji and it was shown on the telly in a pub, I wouldn't drop everything because their anthems were playing. Would you?

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Yes I would, I take the view that you cannot truly respect your own anthem if you do not respect others anthems, having said that I would not try to impose this view on others around me, each man/woman must make their own mind up.

Respecting anthems is not á la carte , respect all or none would be my view.

Fair enough pronane,

going slightly off topic for a second, what is it that makes the English Fans (and unlike the hooligan argument, I believe it's 50/50 if not the majority) boo the opposing national anthem, I find it disgusting.

The racket they made during the Dutch anthem on Wednesday (heard it after the Irish match) was disgraceful.

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Originally Posted by pronane

i didnt hear that, as I was watching the IRELAND match :p

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just to clear it up, i was at the irish match and heard it afterwards :p

Your comment on the French away game, at the time I felt singing along was probably a little close to being inappropriate, though I hope the Franch took it in the friendly manner it was intended.

(having said that i have an mpeg of it saved on the pc to relive the moment :D )

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Originally Posted by pronane

Then again, i think us humming along to the french national anthem ( although it was uplifting ) was rude as well. I know its one of those catchy anthems, but would the french have looked on us the same way as we look on teh english booing?? Its a fair enough question

sorry for all the foul language.

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Don't know for certain as I don't know any French fans who were at the game.

However, I suspect it was taking in the spirit in which it was meant.

A big difference between

A) BOOING throughout the duration of an Anthem

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B) Singing along with a National Anthem (Although I'd sayy99.9% didn't know the words :D )

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Originally Posted by Junior

Although I'd say 99.9% didn't know the words :D

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that's a very conservative estimate :D :D :D

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Originally Posted by pronane

any chance of uploading that???

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don't know how :o , but if you pm your email address I'll send it to you :) .

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Originally Posted by pronane

I do always say i would love to see us play them in a big competition and stuff them, but I honestly do feel they wouldnt take to this kindly and there could be alot of trouble before/during and after the game.

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Sure it wasn't until Ireland scored the goal in '96 that the trouble started in Lansdowne... They wouldn't take it lightly at all

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Originally Posted by pronane

Then again, i think us humming along to the french national anthem ( although it was uplifting ) was rude as well. I know its one of those catchy anthems, but would the french have looked on us the same way as we look on teh english booing?? Its a fair enough question
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Don't think it was rude in the slightest bit.. The French were happy to have us singing\humming along to their anthem they saw it as a mark of respect ( Read in French paper) and good sport...

I would be happy if an opposing team sang along to Amhran na bhFiann as long as they weren't takin the pi$$.. We weren't takin the pi$$ in Paris we were just all hyped up and delighted to be there and its a great anthem so we sang along...

Booing is a totally different story its disgracefull and should never happer

Well at least we don't have to listen to the poxy "Irelands Call" at soccer matches, Amhran Na bhFiann is our national Anthem and should be sung as loudly and proudly as is possible.

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Originally Posted by tiktok

Your comment on the French away game, at the time I felt singing along was probably a little close to being inappropriate, though I hope the Franch took it in the friendly manner it was intended.

(having said that i have an mpeg of it saved on the pc to relive the moment :D )

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i agree with what you have said.when i first heard the crowd humming it i didnt know what to do. but there was no malice in it.it is a catchy anthem. i also saved it on me pc and now have it on cd so i play it every one in a while.

The problem is Lansdowne and the numerous suits at the matches.
Compare and contrast with the game in Paris.
Give me an away game any day.