Ha, you'll be pleased to hear I'll be voting Green (hey, they're the right colour!); a party that I would like to see effect things locally here, although I fear my vote will count for naught under the present electoral system. Voters and candidates in NI will be the ones who decide on the constitutional/border question, but you miss my point. A few NI fans on Slugger failed to grasp it too, so perhaps I'm not articulating it well enough. I'm not the one bleating, pontificating, pointing accusatory fingers and telling others that they should be unconditionally opposing "apartheid in Ireland", and especially not whilst at the same time actually supporting partition. If someone supports partition, that's fine. You know that's how I feel. I'd never pontificate to someone opposed to it. I'd respect their view. I further acknowledge that many from nationalist backgrounds are presently content with the status quo anyway. I'm happy to wait myself. The status quo poses no insecurity in terms of the Irish identity of nationalists. That's fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
The only finger I point is to make an accusation of tiresome hypocrisy. I just wish OWCers (I know all NI fans aren't so lacking in self-awareness) wouldn't simultaneously pretend that unconditional sharing, ideas of unity with everyone and all that are their priority; as if they're above notions of identity and politics and only nationalists are "afflicted" by such "base" concerns, or as if the NI team is some social-cohesion project behind which everyone in the north is morally obliged to get because everyone signed up to the peace agreement. I could support partition and it wouldn't make me a hypocrite in this instance because I'm not putting expectations upon others that I wouldn't expect of myself. I'm not bringing partition up to have a debate about it really. We've had that debate in 1998 (we can still talk about it but it should be without imposing undue expectations upon the other) and any serious movement on it has been postponed until the Secretary of State decides otherwise. I only bring up the matter to make a point and expose the hypocrisy of NI fans going on about supposedly opposing "apartheid". I don't think that places any onus upon me. They want their own team that represents their world view over all else - which is fine - so they should just be honest about it. I'm just pointing out the hollowness of what is a bogus accusation; that if they're actually opposed to what they're claiming to be opposed, they're not demonstrating that very well by prioritising certain other terms at odds with that.
I added a comment to that OWC Facebook thread last night. I've since been blocked and the whole discussion, full of plenty of valid points, shut down and deleted. I can see it was obviously a source for much embarrassment, but, bleh... It's just facepalm, pre-Enlightenment era stuff. Heads back in the sand then, as usual... :rolleyes:
And considering it's at the level of gossip/light entertainment and not a "story" fit for a serious publication, I'm well aware I've gobbled up the Indo's bait! :o
