Margaret Hussan Dead

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Originally Posted by Éanna

true.


as for what tricky_colour said- I think if the group had wanted to release her, they could have found a way.

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But is not what I said, I don't know where you got that impression from.
They didn't want to release her, I don't know where you got that idea from.

(Typical manager?)

Its disgusting what happened to her. I think two things sealed her fate - (1) she was a British citizen and (2) apparently she was being held captive in Fallujah which was being attacked at the time. The screening of the injured iraqi being shot dead by an american soldier didnt help. Also, if reports out of Fallujah are true apparently its just the tip of the iceberg. Five seven live reported mass executions by the americans, the dumping of bodies into the Euphrates and the indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas with phosporus and cluster bombs.

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

But is not what I said, I don't know where you got that impression from.
They didn't want to release her, I don't know where you got that idea from.

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sorry, I didn't put that very well. you said

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

I wondered whether it was Al Zarqawi who held her all the time?
They may have realised it would be bad publicity to harm here and
so made out they were another group. Probably pretty unlikely considering,
but it was a thought which crossed my mind.
However they did not demand money rather the troops to be pulled out etc..

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and what I meant to say was, that if they had realised it was publicity, they could have released her, rather than killing her if they wanted to.

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Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat

supposedly was forty minutes before the 'insurgents' finished with them,sick.

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Maybe they wanted to punish him for escaping first! Still not right obviously

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Truely appalling news, such a pointless and mindless act, I wonder what
the people who killed her expect to gain from her death, certaintly not
support for their 'cause'.
Apparently an Arab media outlet did a poll which had 70% against and 30%
in favour (or whatever) of her killing.

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30% wanting her dead is shockingly high

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Originally Posted by Metrostars

30% wanting her dead is shockingly high

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absolutely. can't figure how any right-thinking individual would think like that. i guess war messes with peoples heads, and right and wrong become confused. but still, 30% :confused: :mad:

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Originally Posted by Metrostars

30% wanting her dead is shockingly high

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I am not sure if that is how you should read it, if I recall correctly (after
seeing it for a second time) 70% condemed it, thats doesn't mean
the other 30% condoned it (necessarilly) I mean after all the real
'bad gay' Al Zarqawi said she should be freed ( although that may have
been a form of propaganda, although I now doubt it).

I wonder how many Americans would condem the shooting of the
defenseless wounded in a poll? Not very many I would imagine.

Or take an example from Northern Ireland, where the word regret is used
rather than condemnation.

Having said that it was a truely evil act which ever way you look at it,
and I hope I do not sound as if I am excusing it, it is utterly
inexcusable vile act comitted by what must truely be the scum of the
earth.

I hope the guys who did it don't have any martyrdom missions
planned cos they will be going straight to hell when they die, there
is no doubt about that.

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Originally Posted by Éanna

sorry, I didn't put that very well. you said


and what I meant to say was, that if they had realised it was publicity, they could have released her, rather than killing her if they wanted to.

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Yes I see your point, I guess Al Zarqawi did not kidnap her (as I conjected)
anyway.

I suspect those who did killed her were mentally ill criminals released
from Saddams jails, I don't know if that would make anyone feel any
better about it.

It does seem clear from the earlier videos that she realised she was
in the hands of some really sick people.

It is very sad indeed. I hope the people who did it are now dead, it
is hard to imagine anyone who would harbour such people.

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Originally Posted by davros

More misguided heartless fools did this,amongst many in the region.


R.I.P.Margaret H.

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The proportion of misguided heartless fools is about the same evrywhere ....... sadly! :(

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Originally Posted by sligoman

Maybe they wanted to punish him for escaping first! Still not right obviously

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I don't believe he escaped at all,I think they made it up so they could kill him anyway.

I think it was the same length of time for the beheading of the americans as Bigley.

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Its a shame some people thought they would be safe because they were
Irish, these people willl kill anyone.

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If I recall an Irish reporter and cameraman have already been killed.....making Margaret the 3rd or 4th if you include Ken Bigley to be executed.....plus any Irishmen fighting in the Royal Irish Gaurds who were killed (not sure if any have been) :(

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Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat

I don't believe he escaped at all,I think they made it up so they could kill him anyway.

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They dont need to make up a reason to kill anyone.If they want to do it, they will.

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Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat

I don't believe he escaped at all,I think they made it up so they could kill him anyway.

I think it was the same length of time for the beheading of the americans as Bigley.

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I think what is alledged to have happend was someone (a less violent individual) in or associated with the kidnapping gang let/set him free on "their watch" so to speak, but he was then found by either some local criminals who handed him back over to the gang or by the rest of the gang itself and thats when they killed him. I seem to remember reading the paper on last month, local Iraqi's had said that had happened. Although I doubt if we'll ever know what exactly happened.

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Originally Posted by liam88

If I recall an Irish reporter and cameraman have already been killed.....making Margaret the 3rd or 4th if you include Ken Bigley to be executed.....plus any Irishmen fighting in the Royal Irish Gaurds who were killed (not sure if any have been) :(

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I think at least one, a Dubliner from what I recall, has been killed in action... I think another might have died earlier on in a traffic accident at their base in Southern Iraq.

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Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

I think at least one, a Dubliner from what I recall, has been killed in action...

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He was a soldier. It was a war. tough shít

Yeah hard to argue with that, he wasnt a conscript so he knew the risks when he signed up.

Still an inappropiate response I thought.