Roy Keane Charged With Assault

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Originally Posted by Conor74

shines through in incidents like harbouring a misplaced grudge for two years and then trying to end someone's career,

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probably the best tackle ive ever seen


and to davros

see above

good things come to those who wait ;)

[QUOTE=Conor74] I mean, during the Lee Bowyer assault trial everyone thought he was a scumbag, even though he was subsequently acquitted. Whereas, because Roy is Irish and manu can do no wrong, we all talk about great principles like innocent until proven otherwise. The man is a scumbag, I don't care if he is acquitted or not,QUOTE]

Sounds like you are a rather bitter little man. To call someone you probably have never met, or know, a scumbag is cowardly, childish and probably a sign of some personal issues you have deep down with yourself.
To compare this with Lee Bowyers incidents is totally absolutely ridiculous and pure scaremongering and speculation on your behalf.Lee Bowyer was involved in an altercation that nearly left an Asian lad dead-FACT. Witnesses stated this in court and his own team-mate Duberry testified as to this being the case in court.
Roy is charged with criminal damage and assault-which in this case constitutes breakig a chain on some kids neck. If guilty, he will get treated with by the court accordingly. But to compare Roy Keane with Lee Bowyer is plain ridiculous. It seems quite clear that your hatred of Roy and his previous actions (Saipan, McCarthy etc) cloud your tiny mind, and as a result you have become rather bigoted. Wipe your eyes, before you can't see at all.....

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

And sometimes this place gets legal threats because people don't think before they speak. And if we receive a writ, we'll be forced to hand the identifying of the relevant... uh... person over. Who the aforementioned embarassment to Cork society could easily sue into the ground.

Think, speak. Think, speak. Try it there yourself.

adam

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He couldn't sue me for a thing, my friend, if you know anything about Irish media law. Like I said, it was a sarcastic joke in response to the post previous to it, something any judge would take into account so unclench for a second and lose the condescension, no need for it.

[QUOTE=joeSoap][QUOTE=Conor74] I mean, during the Lee Bowyer assault trial everyone thought he was a scumbag, even though he was subsequently acquitted. Whereas, because Roy is Irish and manu can do no wrong, we all talk about great principles like innocent until proven otherwise. The man is a scumbag, I don't care if he is acquitted or not,QUOTE]

Sounds like you are a rather bitter little man. To call someone you probably have never met, or know, a scumbag is cowardly, childish and probably a sign of some personal issues you have deep down with yourself.


Oh come on. In his own autobiography he admits to looking forward to that tackle, arrested twice on international duty. Never though I'd say this but the cork supporting kerryman is right!!

Of course he's a scumbag. It doesnt matter if I've ever met or known him. I've never met or known John Gilligan but I think any rational person would say he's a scumbag. Ask yourself this. Why does a grown man with all his wealth and fame consistently get into trouble?

And dont give me that he grew up in mayfield crap. You can be a scumbag no matter where you come from.

Also FAO dahamsta if you receive legal threats for a website that says "Talk Balls" there is something the matter with some of your readers!

KOH

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Originally Posted by thecorner

probably the best tackle ive ever seen

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If you don't have your tongue planted firmly in your cheek then you deserve to have a boot planted firmly in your balls. :mad:

He admits to going out intending to injure a player, did so and then got Eamonn Dunphy to tell barefaced lies about poetic licence so he wouldn't lose a substantial portion of his riches to the player and his club in a civil writ.

As for his current indescretion. I'm starting to think he's probably the injured party or moreso at least. The initial reports I heard indicated this was some kid working part time on a golf course who gave out about keanes mutt s h i tting on the fairway. This appears to be off the mark and according to what little information is available I was able to do a little Mathematical formulae...
16 year old + Gold chain + Moped = Knack

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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

I was able to do a little Mathematical formulae...
16 year old + Gold chain + Moped = Knack

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:D :D :D

This thread is in danger of turning out like pineapple stu's infamous thread on knacker kids. Keep it clean lads. :)

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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

I was able to do a little Mathematical formulae...
16 year old + Gold chain + Moped = Knack

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:p ;) :p

thats up there with e= mc2

This thread is a load of rubbish. None of us know what happened and very few of us know what roy keane is like or what the 16 year old is like. We are just using our prejudice to back up our cases. Whether that be anti the 16 year old or anti Keane. I think we shuld just let the courts decide what is right. Remember that Keane has been in trouble before but how many times has he been found guilty. That is the point. As we have seen in Donegal people may be charged but its whether they are found guilty that means they are a scumbag or not. We do live in a society where somebody is innocent until proven guilty and that carrie too in relation to the 16 year old too.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, then it’s probably a duck.

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Originally Posted by Condex

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, then it’s probably a duck.

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Or Robbie Savage

Does anyone really give a flying f**k whether Keane hit this young lad or not?

If he is found guilty, then what?
Will he go down? - No.
Will FAI say we dont want a convicted thug playing for us? - No.
Will he offer to stand down? - No.

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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

If you don't have your tongue planted firmly in your cheek then you deserve to have a boot planted firmly in your balls. :mad:

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and he says hiding behind a pc screen

ah but what do u know, hes from limerick

arent they all sneaky fcukers down there

You can be sure the little wipper-snapper got no more than he deserved.

Unfortunately the law looks after the criminal these days not
the victim of crime etc....

I remember when Cloughie (RIP) cuffed a few fans for invading the pitch
and he ended up in trouble, absolutely disgusting.

Of course if you or I were asssulted by a young thug the police
wouldn't even want to know.

Upside down world. :mad: :mad: :mad:

If it goes to trial I hope the judge and jury will be a little more opened minded than you lot - let's wait for the trial if it gets that far and get the facts of what actually happened.

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Originally Posted by Donal81

He couldn't sue me for a thing, my friend, if you know anything about Irish media law.

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Unfortunately, I know far more about the law as it applies to web discussion forums than I ever wanted to learn. The first thing I learned is that they have very little to do with traditional libel law. Foot.ie isn't "the media", it's a discussion site where regular people state their opinions, and as such we had to transfer responsibility for those statements onto their original posters via our terms and conditions to protect ourselves legally. The critical point here is that unlike "the media" we're not a publisher, we're simply an aggregator of statement and opinion. Here's your statement:

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A grown man assaults a teenager

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What's happened here is that you've stated this as fact, and if the aforementioned "grown man" - obviously referring to Keane - actually does go to court and is declared innocent, you will have libelled him. In which case, he may well wish to sue you for damages. If that happens, the first place his lawyers will come is here, looking for your identity. Which I won't give them without a writ, but I'd be very surprised if they wouldn't get one, at which point I'll hand the details over sharpish, no bother at all. Foot.ie is non-for-profit remember; we don't have any money.

Perhaps you're right, perhaps a judge would take the sarcastic nature of your post into account (personally I didn't pick up on any sarcasm, it looks to me like a statement of fact) but would he award you costs? I doubt it. In which case you'd be out of pocket, perhaps seriously so (Keane is a wealthy man remember, he can afford to drag cases out with discovery and legal research).

I post all this because, in a rather hypocritical fashion, you yourself have been condescending right back at me, which demonstrates that you haven't really thought about this very carefully (imho). If you had, you would have realised that all I was trying to do was protect my users by instilling a little common sense when it comes to posting statements here.

Believe me, I've been threatened with legal action for far less than your statement, and I'm pretty sure my knowledge of the law in this area has saved a few of my users a pretty penny, from far less angst-ridden people than Keane.

So do me a favour, drop the attitude, eh? It's always wise to remember that web forums are traditionally benevolent dictatorships. And even benevolent dictators get ticked off with being talked down to by the proletariat occasionally, and go on a deletion spree.

adam

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Originally Posted by NY Hoop

Also FAO dahamsta if you receive legal threats for a website that says "Talk Balls" there is something the matter with some of your readers!

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Its a pun KOH. Think about it.

adam

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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

16 year old + Gold chain + Moped = Knack

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never knew that the young fella was a rovers fan :D

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

Unfortunately, I know far more about the law as it applies to web discussion forums than I ever wanted to learn. The first thing I learned is that they have very little to do with traditional libel law. Foot.ie isn't "the media", it's a discussion site where regular people state their opinions, and as such we had to transfer responsibility for those statements onto their original posters via our terms and conditions to protect ourselves legally. The critical point here is that unlike "the media" we're not a publisher, we're simply an aggregator of statement and opinion. Here's your statement:

What's happened here is that you've stated this as fact, and if the aforementioned "grown man" - obviously referring to Keane - actually does go to court and is declared innocent, you will have libelled him. In which case, he may well wish to sue you for damages. If that happens, the first place his lawyers will come is here, looking for your identity. Which I won't give them without a writ, but I'd be very surprised if they wouldn't get one, at which point I'll hand the details over sharpish, no bother at all. Foot.ie is non-for-profit remember; we don't have any money.

Perhaps you're right, perhaps a judge would take the sarcastic nature of your post into account (personally I didn't pick up on any sarcasm, it looks to me like a statement of fact) but would he award you costs? I doubt it. In which case you'd be out of pocket, perhaps seriously so (Keane is a wealthy man remember, he can afford to drag cases out with discovery and legal research).

I post all this because, in a rather hypocritical fashion, you yourself have been condescending right back at me, which demonstrates that you haven't really thought about this very carefully (imho). If you had, you would have realised that all I was trying to do was protect my users by instilling a little common sense when it comes to posting statements here.

Believe me, I've been threatened with legal action for far less than your statement, and I'm pretty sure my knowledge of the law in this area has saved a few of my users a pretty penny, from far less angst-ridden people than Keane.

So do me a favour, drop the attitude, eh? It's always wise to remember that web forums are traditionally benevolent dictatorships. And even benevolent dictators get ticked off with being talked down to by the proletariat occasionally, and go on a deletion spree.

adam

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That puts us in our place!

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Originally Posted by thecorner

and he says hiding behind a pc screen

ah but what do u know, hes from limerick

arent they all sneaky fcukers down there

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Says a 'man'(??), presumably from Cork who also sits behind a computer screen who wouldn't have the bottle to pass a remark like that face to face to someone from Limerick.
Grow up and stop being so personal.