Drugs in Sport

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Absolutely, and even within these shores, amateurs too are clearly taking 'supplements' of varying dregrees of closeness to the allowed levels. Part of EPO's appeal when it first came out wasn't that it helped on-the-day performance, but rather it helped in training before the season started. So a cyclist could theoretically push himself to levels he couldn't without help, but that his body would reap the benefits of this extra training when the EPO had left his system

It seems many have decided that somebody having a complicated surgery (like inserting someone else's cartilage in their knee) isn't cheating but somebody rubbing a cream on their knee is. I'm not sure about that one either.

Co-incidentally WADA were speaking in Dublin yesterday. 8 failed tests from 787 tests, inclding 3 tug-of-warers and one LOI player.

http://balls.ie/football/facts-and-f...eland-in-2012/

Very interesting to see that 8 GAA inter country teams missed tests without any sanction

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Grimes I assume?

I have always had my suspicions about those pumped up gym monkeys playing for Kildare, the Dubs and Cork.
But that could also be the sore loser in me :)

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Originally Posted by geysir

I have always had my suspicions about those pumped up gym monkeys playing for Kildare, the Dubs and Cork.
But that could also be the sore loser in me :)

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You'd be right to.

I've still not come around to one of our players, since retired who in 2009 turned in some incredible out of this world performances despite being pretty gash for a the proceeding 3-4 years. It wasn't a coincidence I'd say that his pasty flabby body turned into a example of raw muscle in this particular season.

I was pulled up recently when what I'd said (and written) was twisted by a person with a gripe - not against me for a change but with testing - about "silent bans". Now, I'll be straight up and say they exist, I'm certain of it, do I have 100% proof, yes. Can it be proved in a court of law, no. Why? Because the athletes were "injured" or some other excuse. Now one person was banned and it wasn't announced. She was done by the national olympic council after a tip off (by her training partner who was also pulled but turned stoolie. They told her that she was gone for 6 months yet the sports ruling body were not informed.

If you look at athletes who suddenly drop off the radar and come back stronger and bigger and with noticeable body changes (not just from turning from flab into fab), someone somewhere has to have a light bulb go off over their head. Rafa Nadal is a great example. And even a basic ped, one to make you sharper, more alert, they're so overused in some sports that it's just the norm, and without them we wouldn't see the rallies, effort or fury that we do. It's humanly impossible to do some things that tennis players do (for example), not just once, but over and over in a match. When courts, equipment and balls all made the game faster, humans didn't suddenly develop quicker brains, but we're led to believe that we progressed naturally.

I still remember John Giles saying (after a Keane led charge at a referee) that players were taking things to make them behave that way. He was very clear, very concise and open. But there's too much money to lose in big sports like football and tennis to make a fuss. Better to batter athletics and cycling. Or sports over in the US.

A tennis player I've met frequently copped a 6 month ban today - backdated to October, which means she's back on court in April. She claims that she was caught out by a contaminated supplement, though she works with a sports scientist that has been known to "look after" athletes. Zahalova Strycova's husband was caught at Domodedovo airport with a bag full of "supplements" which he claimed were for his own use. He's his wife's coach.

Much to the surprise of nobody at all, BBC Africa tweeted:

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One of #Kenya's most successful runners, Moses Kiptanui, says #doping is widespread among the country's athletes.

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Meanwhile, WADA critical of the Premier League and other major leagues also:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/p...ne-222643.html

There was an interesting bit on doping/ fuentes last night on 5live, featuring Jeremy Whittle amongst others. It's a total disgrace that even the judge is complicit in protected every sport but cycling from Feuntes revealing all his clients.

Sports like tennis, football and rugby and many of their supporters are just delusional when it comes to doping - coming out with bs about not any real benefits, too much skill, doesn't help concentration (despite there being specific ped's for concentration). At least the American sports clearly don't give a toss - I prefer that to the hypocrisy to be honest.

I only found out last week that the Fuentes trail isn't about whether this is cheating or not, its a trial about whether he acted in the best interests for his clients as a doctor. Its a health issue there, rather than one of whether he helped sports stars cheat or not

I think the law in Spain is different now, but at the time doping wasn't a crime.

A general piece on doping in sport that points to organised crime involvement in doping: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013...ime?CMP=twt_gu

Channel 4 report on Fuentes / Operation Puerto trial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDiQXpKG-oM

Manzano claims he saw 1 Spanish and 2 Brazilian internationals attending Fuentes.

The ITF (International Tennis Federation) are finally taking action and making contact with every player who attended TenisVal. It's kind of like putting up fences when the Louth fans are chasing the ref, but sure, it looks good.

Tony Thompson says that that drugs should be legalised.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/21531723

If anyone has read about the "tragic" story of a young star quitting over online abuse, roll your eyes. There is a certain "clinic" in Miami that very recently has been uncovered as a hotbed of PED use and this young lady was a frequent visitor, along with a number of other stars. Sick of this crap with players jumping before getting pushed, then coming back again later on.

It's all a racket, Spud :)

So Tiger Woods has a dodgy doctor: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_891672.html

7 kids of his own! It's a wonder he had any performance-enhancing drugs left.

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Originally Posted by Mr A

So Tiger Woods has a dodgy doctor: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_891672.html

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That story is nearly 2 years old at this stage.

Ah.. I saw it tweeted today and did not notice the published date :o

A piece on doping in rugby: http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...658&sec=sports

No surprise whatsoever there, except that it has taken so long to even look like being uncovered.