No, he's staying on. Keep up.
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No, he's staying on. Keep up.
He's in the Swedish squad for tomorrow's friendly against China and next week's qualifier against Kazakhstan. Probably won't play against China but should be starting in the qualifier.
Except I don't give two fecks what he does, either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
If you go out with a team like Westwood
Kelly JOS Dunne Wilson
(very close call but for me this defense is slightly better than JOS Dunne, Sledge, Wilson)
McGeady McCarthy Meyler McClean
Walters Long
subs Doyle, Cox, Gibson, Harte, Whelan, Sledge, Andrews
and a manager who believes in this team then we could actually compete with Germany let alone beat Austria and Sweden. That is the most depressing part of all. We can't compete with good teams on the rise. Our best competitive results under Trapatonni have all been against sides on a downer like France and Italy who both went on to have disastrous tournaments after qualifying.
He's neither moody nor inconsistent. He's a seriously hard working player who delivers consistently and unfortunately for us is one of and possibly is the greatest forward currently playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
If he has a flaw it's his arrogance.
Better than Messi? And a host of other strikers.
Yeah, right...
I'd agree Messi is better, Ronaldo too, but neither of them is an out-and-out striker, I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Er, their goals 'scored' would suggest otherwise...
Ibra is a good player, but would he get in the German team, prior to their Munchen-induced meltdown? I doubt it...
That argument could be used against every side in Europe beyond Germany, Spain and maybe Portugal. They're the only teams untouchable in terms of form and performance. If this is the standard we demand, it's ridiculously high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
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Originally Posted by peadar1987
Falcao would be another, FAR better than Ibrahimovic
Not a player I've seen too much of, so I'll take your word for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
He would walk into that German team we saw at the Euros.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
He doesn't play as a striker for Sweden, he is given a free role. Without him in that Swedish team, I think we would outdo them in the group.
Yes, but not before. Over-rated and over-the-hill I reckon.
He had an excellent Euros and season leading up to it. If anything he's coming in to form not over the hill!!!
A player with fabulous technique and vision. I'd agree with Ardee (and diasgree with murf) however that he has been inconsistent over the years and certainly shown plenty of examples of being the 'i' in team. Wouldnt be at all surprised if he causes us all sorts of problems when we play them.
Depends also on what rating you are comparing your opinion toQuote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
He's won 3 out the last 4 poty Series A awards and was outstanding for Sweden at the Euros.
If that was an over-the-hill and over-rated Ibrahamovith at the Euros, then I shudder to think how he was in his prime.
Except I'm not interested about he was in his prime. And 'outstanding' is stretching it. What are you, his agent?
More relevant that the rest of the Swedish team these days are fairly ordinary...
He's a recognised outstanding player for his club, his league and his country.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
'Outstanding' in the defined sense of the of the word, 'recognized' in the defined sense of the word, in all those 3 spheres of football activity.
Yawn, if you say so...
To be fair, him, and the esteemed gentlemen who choose the Serie A Player of the Year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
He had one great tourno in the Euros - and that's it. If anything I think Willhelmson was their best player in terms of minutes played and how effective he was on the pitch.