How do some people not get this? IF you don't like the Setanta Cup don't go to games, It's simple. Why moaning about it and hoping it will be scratched??
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How do some people not get this? IF you don't like the Setanta Cup don't go to games, It's simple. Why moaning about it and hoping it will be scratched??
...so you think adding a first Division team will improve the standard ?:o Apart from Celtic/Rangers Scottish teams would notbe any great draw fan wise (although would improve the standard) think the idea of Scottish involvement was mooted before but withered on the vine. Judging by SFA/FAI spat it may be related to cost :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by shellyriver
Chance for those that want to visit new venues (mainly Irish League grounds) and for those not interested to stay away. Took Bohs a few years to get into it and personally like it.
Wouldn't have thought the travel would be an obstacle for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
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Originally Posted by marinobohs
No. I was thinking that those first division with a fan base might be interested in attending a game against Premiership. Actually, a wildcard for regional winners of FAI Junior Clubs, might produce a David/Goliath etc.
Aside to the Old Firm, I do think a game against Hibs, Hearts and maybe even St Johnstone would generate interest.Quote:
Apart from Celtic/Rangers Scottish teams would notbe any great draw fan wise (although would improve the standard) think the idea of Scottish involvement was mooted before but withered on the vine. Judging by SFA/FAI spat it may be related to cost :rolleyes:
Chance for those that want to visit new venues (mainly Irish League grounds)...
Just a suggestion, but to take this seriously, why not forego a League qualifying place and give a Europa place to winner which would mean teams would take it seriously?
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Originally Posted by shellyriver
Stab in the dark here, but I'm assuming it's because they can't.
Not among Hibs, Hearts or even St Johnstone, it wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by shellyriver
.....recent visits to LOI grounds by such teams has hardly seen the "Sold out" signs in use.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Prize money is nothing to be sneezed at
http://www.fai.ie/domestic-a-grassro...draw-date.html
SETANTA SPORTS CUP COMMITTEE AGREES DRAW DATE FOR 2012
The Setanta Sports Cup committee has confirmed that it will hold the first round draw for the Setanta Sports Cup at Aviva Stadium on January 25 at 2.30pm.
The competition has been running since 2005 and round one in 2012 will kick off on February 13. Twelve clubs, six from the Airtricity League and six from the Carling Premiership will take part. The first round draw will involve the eight unseeded clubs which will be drawn into four home and away pairings that will see Carling Premiership sides take on Airtricity League sides on February 13 and February 20.
The unseeded clubs in this year's competition are:
Cliftonville, Derry City, Glentoran, St Patrick's Athletic, Lisburn Distillery, Bohemian FC, Portadown and Bray Wanderers
The four winners to emerge from the first round will join the four seeded clubs, last year's winners, Shamrock Rovers as well as Linfield, Sligo Rovers and Crusaders in the quarter final draw.
The prize fund will remain the same as last year with €50,000 for the winners, €30,000 for the runners up, €15,000 for each of the defeated semi-finalists, €10,000 for each of the defeated quarter finalists and €7,500 for clubs defeated in round one. A workshop for all participating clubs will take place in the Canal Court in Newry on February 1, 2012. Additional performance bonuses will be paid for winning (€2,000) or drawing (€1,000) a match during the competition with the exception of the final.
Milo Corcoran, Chairman of the Setanta Sports Cup Organising Committee said,
"I thank Setanta Sports for their ongoing commitment to the competition and everyone from the FAI and IFA who gives it support. With standards continuing to increase on both sides of the border, the 2012 Setanta Sports Cup is sure to be a big draw with numerous exciting potential ties."
Surely it's getting to the stage where some clubs might be better off sacrificing early season league form to go all-out for this?
They're some serious prizes for an Irish competition.
Dundalk took a serious approach last season - the run to the final was a good return, but 7th in the league left a feeling of underachievementQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
It shows how times have changed that some regard it as serious money, when you compare the cash available to a few years backQuote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
True Ezeikial but it is what it is. Look at the derisory cash for the League Cup. This is well worth winning.
Absolutley. People who say "crap cup or not worth it" are dellusional. Money is money and every club needs it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
The Setanta was a fantastic experience. I will never forget Windsor Park.
No one ever does. They never let you.
Jesus H get your facts straight. We never won it. We won the League (EA Sports) Cup in 2010 beating Monaghan in the final. I think some fans showing a condescending attitude towards the competition is unfair. Decent prize money and an 'all Ireland' trophy. I realise that the standard shown by IL sides has been disappointing, but talk of having Scottich sides come in - get a grip.Quote:
Originally Posted by shellyriver
We always took it seriously and were gutted to lose in the final in 2006, the semi in 2007 and winning it in 2008 was a fantastic night for our club - I was gutted we never got the opportunity to play Cliftonville in Belfast
For me the annoying thing was entering it 5 times in a row and never being in the same group as Linfield. Got a trip up there alright but never played them at home.
Dundalk defintely embraced it last season, without doubt it was the highlight of our season. The trip to Windsor, 15 coach loads of fans heading up and playing them off the park was just superb. Loved the home games also v Linfield and Glentoran, drew 1-1 with each, but great games. I suppose for us the travel wasn't that big of a deal, same distance to Dublin really (for the 'neutral' venue final in Tallaght, but still another enjoyable day out)
But........and there is always one, word of warning for any club banking on the money to paid up anytime soon. We still hadn't got a cent by Sept this year (owed 30k min) and it took a live league game v Rovers at home (on Setanta Sports TV) for Setanta PLC to finally cough up, or at least agree to cough up.
For 2012, I would hope they change the match nights around a little, Mon nights were poor overall, fine for us at home to Linfield/Glens, always going to be a big crowd, but overall I would say a Wed night would be more suitable.
I think the Champions League starts up again around that time of year so Wednesday nights wouldn't be greatQuote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Apart from that there would be an almighty negative reaction to clubs playing Wednesday in the Setanta and Friday in the League. Unless the brave decision was made to upgrade the Setanta competition in some way, Monday and Tuesday nights are the only options for fitting matches around the league fixtures north and south.Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint