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03/08/2011, 10:39 AM
Spudulika

Ezekial, if there are bonuses written in for European performance (which would be standard in many cases) then fair enough, though the club could show some goodwill. As MB says bringing in the PFAI has not improved matters. I know, MB, that the winding up order on Bohs earlier this year was something that struck close to the bone. I agreed that the players should have been paid what they were due, but the PFAI are not going about anything in a constructive matter. I just hope this finishes quickly and Pats play the game of their lives (like out in Samara) and show themselves up as the good team they are.
03/08/2011, 10:39 AM
Mr A

I hate footballers.
03/08/2011, 10:42 AM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by Longfordian

The PFAI's solicitor Stuart Gilhooly is banging on on Twitter about the players being determined that the match will not go ahead unless there's an agreement.

....... perhaps he will let the fans that travelled with Pats know where to pick up their "out of pocket" expences :o more waste of money by PFAI, paying that clown to represent them (what do they pay their full time representative for ?)
03/08/2011, 10:51 AM
passerrby

If pats are like most clubs then any cash windfall will be earmarked for creditors who have been waiting in the wings, my guess is there is nothing left for bonus payments that was never agreed in the first place
Maybe players should state before signing if they will be free (at no added expense) to play in euro competitions
03/08/2011, 11:02 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Longfordian

The PFAI's solicitor Stuart Gilhooly is banging on on Twitter about the players being determined that the match will not go ahead unless there's an agreement.

Don't forget, Liverpool fanatic...

He probably knows that if they boycott the game tomorrow, they get nothing. As Ezekial said, its a scare tactic
03/08/2011, 11:08 AM
Kingdom

Don't want to be out of line here, but surely boycotting the match isn't a realistic option and one that would be cutting their nose to spite their face? I mean if they get a ban in Europe, get the club a fine, lose the monies they've earned, all because of something their not contractually obliged to receive, despite being morally entitled to, then surely the club could take legal action against the players?
03/08/2011, 11:15 AM
Dodge

I'd assume so.
03/08/2011, 12:17 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

Don't want to be out of line here, but surely boycotting the match isn't a realistic option and one that would be cutting their nose to spite their face? I mean if they get a ban in Europe, get the club a fine, lose the monies they've earned, all because of something their not contractually obliged to receive, despite being morally entitled to, then surely the club could take legal action against the players?

.. not going to happen.Players obviously feel strongly about the matter and have been marched up to the top of the hill. Pats dont appear to be moving so "nuclear option" is threatened. Doubt the players would go that far and pretty definite that FAI would be involved if it were likely/possible.
Still,this type of silliness should be avoided
03/08/2011, 12:47 PM
paul_oshea

There should be only one focus from the club, as a whole, and that is winning tomorrows tie. What a fcuken joke.
03/08/2011, 12:55 PM
Longfordian

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Don't forget, Liverpool fanatic...

He probably knows that if they boycott the game tomorrow, they get nothing. As Ezekial said, its a scare tactic

Saw that in his bio all right. Bit of an attention seeker from what I can see, likes to have his name out there and is constantly becoming chairman or president of various committees in the legal world.
03/08/2011, 4:52 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Seems unlikely!

3 Rounds of Prize Money @ �90k plus �10k prep = �280k (which wont be seen till end of the year) plus Ticket sales (say �60k) over the 3 games.

The travel to away games must be well in excess of �100k (probably closer to �150k)

Mark McCadden in the Star has quoted �100k for ticket sales and sponsorship and a whopping �230k for travel.

Based on that, the nett profit is well under �150k rather then the �319k mentioned.

In any case the players have no case for bonuses for the first round qualification as it was last years squad who got them there
03/08/2011, 5:43 PM
de bowez

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Originally Posted by Longfordian

Saw that in his bio all right. Bit of an attention seeker from what I can see, likes to have his name out there and is constantly becoming chairman or president of various committees in the legal world.

Seemed to be the main instigator in getting Shelley and Grey to issue winding up order last season aswell, was banging on about it on ****ter then aswell.

If Euro bonuses are standard across the league the usual bonuses should be paid imo.
03/08/2011, 5:58 PM
Jicked

I thought it was Shamrock Rovers who were the main instigator behind Shelley and Grey? Looking forward to unveiling those signings before the end of the window.
03/08/2011, 6:21 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

Don't want to be out of line here, but surely boycotting the match isn't a realistic option and one that would be cutting their nose to spite their face? I mean if they get a ban in Europe, get the club a fine, lose the monies they've earned, all because of something their not contractually obliged to receive, despite being morally entitled to, then surely the club could take legal action against the players?

they could probably only sack them for breach of contract or something like that which would just compound the situation and is a lose/lose for Pats. There is no way they would be successful in a claim for damages against the players or something else in my opinion.

The simple fact of the matter is, as i stated not so long ago, the vast majority of players are absolute c**ts and the PFAI is willing to sink as low as necessary.

Being held to ransom is low. I feel sorry for all Pats fans in all this, except Dodge.
03/08/2011, 7:11 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by de bowez

If Euro bonuses are standard across the league the usual bonuses should be paid imo.

No such thing as standard Euro bonuses - but just watch as McGuinness tries to get that writtan into the standard player contracts
03/08/2011, 8:45 PM
nigel-harps1954

If it were up to me being in some capacity in the clubs travelling to the outer reaches of Europe I'd be asking the FAI for some sort of financial help. Which of course is madness I know but sure it only makes sense.
03/08/2011, 9:02 PM
kdjaC

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Originally Posted by SkStu

. I feel sorry for all Pats fans in all this, except Dodge.

We blame him too, no reason just do :)
04/08/2011, 1:21 AM
The Lep

Its bad form from the players, they should have waited till after the euro campaign to start looking for extra few quid.
04/08/2011, 2:47 AM
Charlie Darwin

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...?ts=1312426390
04/08/2011, 7:41 AM
Kingdom

That's a pretty impressive Martin Cahill impression. Needs to thin the hair out a bit though. And maybe wear a Duffeler.

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