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if that midfield starts with kilbane, holland fit I'l eat my 3 yr old bootsQuote:
Originally Posted by carnstien
miller may not get a game at utd ffs
more likely
reidd(rw) keane holland kilbane(lw)
or
miller (rw) keane kavanagh kilbane
or
reid keane kavanagh kilbane
I doubt kerr wil start both reid and miller together - how about posting actual possible line ups instead of fantasy stuff
lets check back to these posts again in september and see who was closer hmm??
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Why wont Kerr start Miller and Reid in the same mid field, is he afraid we may have a mid field that can pass the ball for a change?
A lot depends on who the oppostion is and whether the game is home or away. It is possible he could play both Reid and Miller at home against Bulgaria and Cyprus. But I will eat my hat if they both play along with Duff ( if fit )away to Switzerland and France.
Finnan in midfield? Why be so negative?
I would consider playing Finnan on the right a far more positive move than playing Kilbane on the left. Finnan is a good passer and a very good crosser. I think he offers much more than Kilbane when it comes to attacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1MickCollins
I can't believe that anyone would still see Kilbane as 2nd choice on the left ahead of Reid.
For a tough away game Kilbane would come into the mix, also depends who is at left-back If Harte then Kilbane would be a beter partner than Reid. It's not black and white. Lots of factors.Quote:
Originally Posted by carnstien
To me kilbane would deffo get the nod ahead of reid in the games away to switz and france. Use reid at home where he has more time to utilise his game against the lesser likes. Kilbane can also partner Keane if needed in the centre. If everyone fit think home game midfield will be
miller - keane - holland - reid
away game midfield
miller - keane - holland - kilbane
Duff and keane up front in both games. We really cant throw morrision in against the french
I suppose there'll always be someone who thinks we should play the best left winger in the world out of position.Quote:
Originally Posted by only1kilbane
If I see Duff utterly wasted as a striker yet again I think I'll shoot Kerr. How many ineffective preformances do we need from him up front and how many world class preformances do we need from him on the left to think maybe, just maybe, it might be an idea to play our best player in his best position.Quote:
Originally Posted by only1kilbane
Totally agree Duff should be played on the left whenever possible. However, when your second and/or third best wide player is left sided and therefore Duff is your best right sided player you have to think what serves the team best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Duff on the left serves the team best. He's that much better than what we have that we simply need him to be at his complete best because we're a far better team when he is. Try someone like Andy Reid on the right, he can do a job there, or even Miller if you don't play him centrally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowsy
No is still think that Duff should play on the left. I can't understand playing him of the left for the sake of Kilbane or even Andy Reid. Duff should be played on the left if he is fit, Roy Keane should obviously start in the centre and the team should be built around them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowsy
So Kilbane/Reid on left and Duff on the right isn't better than Duff on the left and say Carsley on the right for example? I can't agree with that. Miller and Reid might be able to take that role on but no one else will have much impact on the right whereas Duff, although better on the left, will still be a torment on the right as he has proved with Chelsea where he spent a lot of the season out of position. I'd prefer to have a well balanced attacking side than simply a threat down one wing.Quote:
Originally Posted by carnstien
I wouldn't. Duffs best preformances for Chelsea all came down the left aswell. Sorry, but Duff is just simply too good and too important to the team to arse around with his position. It's absolutle stupidity to not play him on the left, it makes no sense at all. Why play Reid on the left and Duff on the right when you can do it the other way around? Reid out of position isn't a major loss to the team and he's more suited to being on the wrong side anyway since he isn't an out and out winger which Duff is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowsy
What you are saying just doesn't make sense. Why play Duff on the right and Kilbane on the left and have virtualy no attacking threat coming from the wings at all, when you can just as easily play Duff on the left and Kilbane on the right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowsy
Duff is not a versitile player, if he was it would be fine, but he does not look comfortable when he is played out of position, I don't care what Ranieri did with him, he is an out and out left winger.
Just using Kilbane as an example btw, I think Miller, Andy Reid and Steve Finnan would all be better options on the right.
I'm sorry but that comment is nonsense. His versatility is one of the things Duff prides himself on. That's why he isn't worried about Robben's arrival. Yeah he's much better on the left but he's still excellent on the right. I want Duff played on the left too but we have a wealth of talent on the left but very little on the right. I'm not saying Duff should always be on the right ,as I said I want him on the left, but if needs must with squad availablity he is the best option to do a job there. Finnan really isn't an attacking force on the right side of midfield. I realise I'm fighting a losing battle with this argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by carnstien
Kevin Kilbane is the new Tony Cascarino. A useless **** who is set to pick up a record number of caps. Did you people not see Andy Reid's performace on the left against Holland? He was brilliant and Louis van Gaal was raving about him at half time.
And perhaps Finnan is not an attacking player, but in the few matches he's played on the wing he's come up with more assists than Kevin Kilbane has in his whole Ireland career. It was Finnan's cross that found McAteer in space to beat the Dutch.
I seriously doubt that, although I'm sure you have the stats to back it up and aren't going solely on the one Irish goal that sticks out in your mind :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by brine3
for me, Duff should play on the left wing, once he gets a few games under his belt at Man Utd, Miller should play on the right. There's already a thread on who we want in the centre so I'm not going there again.
IMO, you play your best players available, in their best positions, might be oversimplifying it, but there you go.
Well thats my opinion on Duff, and I can gaurnetee you that he is worried about the arrival of Robben, Duff wants to play on the left wing, nowhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowsy
I believe Finnan to be far more of an attacking force than Kilbane. And if you want to argue with that then put Carr right midfield and Finnan Right back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowsy
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. The man himselfs opinions are laid out in the story below.Quote:
Originally Posted by carnstien
http://www.soccercentral.ie/viewstor...&viewstory=yes
As regards Killer it seems yopu either love him or think he's the world's greatest donkey but that's a whole other debate.
You haven't answered why play Duff out of position and Reid/Kilbane in position when you can do it the other way around, that makes no sense. You pick your best players in your best positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowsy