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I thought Keane would have caught up with Owen in the goalscoring from the Poland matches to the Dutch but unfortunately that's impossible now.[/QUOTE]
I dont think it is impossible he could score from teh bench tonight or get a few against holland either, its unlikely but not impossible
hopefully he will stay on the bench tonight and get himself rested for saturday he really looked wrecked on sat. Give mc Geady a run out tonight it a game with no real pressure for the kid
Well, unless Owen fails to score against Iceland on Saturday and Keane scores 6 against the Dutch. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
Completley disagree, he misses a criminal amount of chances. Keanes guilty of that too mind you. There was only two league goals between them last year, I think Owens better but there's not as big a cap between them as people think. Keane has more to his game than goalscoring whereas Owen is mainly all about the goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
agreed keano can hold up the ball a lot better than owen and seems to have added a lot to his game through all his travels. Hopefully he can put his head down now and hit the back of the net a bit more taking a few less touches ..
Right on, we shouldn't quibble when he is the best goal scorer we have ever had, period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowsy
I think that Robbie is as important for Ireland as Owen is for England, and maybe more so. At club level though Liverpool really need Owen which says something about them as a team, Spurs don't depend on Robbie nearly as much.
Owen is a more clinical finisher but really one dimensional in comparison with Robbie.
I don't think Liverpool need Owen anywhere near as much as they need Gerrard. Owen was superb several years ago but he is not the same player after all the probelms he had with his hamstring. When he first came into Liverpool's team he really was head and shoulders above any other player in England. Keane needs to settle down - he's played at quite a few clubs for a player of his age.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1MickCollins
I think Owen has lost a yard of pace with his injuries. It was his sheer speed that marked him out in his early career. Have rarely seen him ghost past a defender this year. Still he has been looking sharper towards the end of the season.
Robbie is terrific. Best in Irish football history so far. If we are discussing his shortcomings as a forward, there is no doubt Robbie, Brian Kerr, Chris Hughton, etc are doing likewise and working to improve them.
[QUOTE=NeilMcD]That european player of teh year was a disgrace he never deserved it
Of course he desvered,it his goals helped liverpool go on and win a treble of cups that year and he was the one who carried England through their qualifiers for the WC 2002 but ppl only remember beckham's free against Greece after about eight wide efforts.
And if I remember crocectly that was a time when Owens scoring ratio was brilliant,almost a goal for every shot on target,he needed to score every time he had a chance because liverpool played total counter attack football and didn't create hardly anything for Owen.Roma away in the Uefa cup and Arsenal in the FA cup final were two perfect examples when Owen scored two great goals in each to win the games single handed and un-deservedly for liverpool a lot of ppl might say.
That is a case for winning the English player of the year, but there was no way he was teh best player in Europe that season. He was not or is not fit to lace the boots of Zidane, Maldini, Raul, Ronaldo or even guys at Baryern or Valencia. There are manh players that helped their team qualify for the World Cup and I would go as far as saying that Roy Keane was a bigger influence over his country that Owen was and Utd won the league too.
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Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Better make that
Robbie - 52 Games 20 Goals
Michael - 55 Games 24 Goals
Or do I owe Micheal Owen one (nice Welsh name Owen)
Actually Robbies goal was very similar to Micheal's famous goal
against Argentina don't you think?
Incidently I think Robbie struck it with his 'weaker' right foot,
am I correct?
He struck it with his right foot anyway!Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
No, you left out the Japan match so its: Owen - 56 games, 25 goals. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
actually you're also leaving out the iceland game so it's
Owen : 56 games - 25 goals or 0.446 goals per game
Robbie : 52 games - 20 goals or 0.384 goals per game
not much difference really
David Healy has a very respectable 12 from 34. I fancy him to equal Clarke's record tonight :)