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22/07/2010, 12:06 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by dong

Maybe it should be a "brainer" from now on after the debacle the last night?

Simply answering the question posed - which is why I quoted it !!!!! Cant believe any club would choose League win over Group stage qualification although some fans would - didnt say either was achievable or not. Dont worry, doubt you will ever have to worry about either :cool:
22/07/2010, 12:20 PM
ped_ped

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Originally Posted by seand

It's a bit of an strange question. To qualify for the CL group stage you need to win the league first.

Europa League is also European :p
22/07/2010, 12:33 PM
dong

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

Simply answering the question posed - which is why I quoted it !!!!! Cant believe any club would choose League win over Group stage qualification although some fans would - didnt say either was achievable or not. Dont worry, doubt you will ever have to worry about either :cool:

We have won the league before. There is nothing to stop us from doing it again in the future.
I see European progression as something that will never happen for a team in this country in any case.
As for Europe, we did nothing with half a squad and a paltry budget last year. "The Big Club" did nothing with the biggest squad and budget in the league this year.
i'll let you have the last word on it now though as it is usually important to you.;)
22/07/2010, 1:07 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by dong

We have won the league before. There is nothing to stop us from doing it again in the future.
I see European progression as something that will never happen for a team in this country in any case.
As for Europe, we did nothing with half a squad and a paltry budget last year. "The Big Club" did nothing with the biggest squad and budget in the league this year.
i'll let you have the last word on it now though as it is usually important to you.;)

Qualifying for Europe IS doing something (ask Sporting Fingal :cool:).
22/07/2010, 1:13 PM
Couch Potato

Long time reader first time poster.
Odd question to be fair.
IMO reaching the group stages of a european competition would almost certainly guarantee the domestic league title for a fair few years after that, considering the amount of money it would generate for a club.

or to simplify group stages of europe for me thanks.
22/07/2010, 1:24 PM
passerrby

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

Qualifying for Europe IS doing something (ask Sporting Fingal :cool:).

not if you get stuffed
22/07/2010, 1:40 PM
redobit

Can you be greedy and say Both!
22/07/2010, 1:40 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by passerrby

not if you get stuffed

better to have tried and failed.....:D any fan claiming they would rather their club did not get there than lose is talking crap. Only sorry we didnt get tonked two/three rounds further on.

Presume Mons will only play in Europe when they can win it ? :rolleyes:
22/07/2010, 1:43 PM
redobit

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

better to have tried and failed.....:D any fan claiming they would rather their club did not get there than lose is talking crap. Only sorry we didnt get tonked two/three rounds further on.

Presume Mons will only play in Europe when they can win it ? :rolleyes:

Cant disagree with you there, oh hold on a minute how many million are Bohs in the crapper.
22/07/2010, 2:27 PM
geysir

Tough choice, CL group qual or LOI champions?

CL group qualification, €4m straight up, plus €12m approx, 1 draw €400k plus gate receipts etc.
Winning LOI, prize €200k.
22/07/2010, 2:44 PM
Candystripe

Group stage every day of the week for me as well.

If Derry got into the group stage then league titles would be almost guaranteed the following few years with the money it would bring.
22/07/2010, 2:52 PM
seand

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

Group stage every day of the week for me as well.

If Derry got into the group stage then league titles would be almost guaranteed the following few years with the money it would bring.

Are you quoting directly from Derry City's financial plan about 18 months ago?
22/07/2010, 2:57 PM
dfx-

Baby steps. League win first. Guaranteed prize money leading to another league with guaranteed prize money leading to more investment leading to antoher league with guaranteed prize money...stable financial footing...glory..

Or hoping that a big team with big tv rights comes along...and not a group comprising TNS, Kilmarnock, Zimbru Chisinau and some Albanian team trying to throw matches...
22/07/2010, 3:30 PM
northwestexile

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Originally Posted by dfx-

Baby steps. League win first. Guaranteed prize money leading to another league with guaranteed prize money leading to more investment leading to antoher league with guaranteed prize money...stable financial footing

Cant agree more.
Has to be League titles every time or even top four finish every year.
European qualification with money invested in better squad and facilities(so you can at least host your own European games) leading to top four finish/ league title with European qualification money invested etc etc.
22/07/2010, 4:27 PM
galwayjames

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Originally Posted by dfx-

League win first. Guaranteed prize money leading to another league with guaranteed prize money leading to more investment leading to another league with guaranteed prize money

thats what shels did and look at them now.
22/07/2010, 4:35 PM
northwestexile

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Originally Posted by galwayjames

thats what shels did and look at them now.

I think Ollie got up to a bit more than that.
22/07/2010, 6:27 PM
Candystripe

Jeez lads,think about it.Get into the group satge of the Europa league and the money that would bring would be x20 times what a league title brings.

It doesn't matter what teams are in the group with you as you're bound to get great TV money as well as prize money.

Sets your club up for years therefore greater chance to deliver a league title the following year/s.
23/07/2010, 5:55 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by Doomofman

Can't imagine anyone would choose the league first...

Anyone who hasn't won the league! I'd prefer a first league win to making the Europa League groups (or Champions' League groups in the unlikely situation of the league getting two CL spots). After winning the league, I'd go for Champions' League groups.
23/07/2010, 6:02 PM
mypost

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Originally Posted by Riddickcule

Europe any day of the week, any hour of the day, any minute of the hour. You get my drift.

Simple matter of arithmetic.

League = 36 games over 8 months
Europe = 6 games (max) over 6 weeks.

When we go out of Europe in two weeks time, we have a league title to fight for.

I think I'd rather the league tbh.
27/07/2010, 8:03 PM
TonyD

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Originally Posted by redobit

Can you be greedy and say Both!

See that's the great thing about football. You can be as greedy as you like. There's no limit on aspirations and you don't have to choose one competition over another. Just compete in every game and see where it gets you. So I'll have a league and cup double please, with Group Stages qualification on the side. :cool:

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