The great crowds debate

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Originally Posted by cityboytilwedie

thats harsh !...fair play the more city fans the better
support cork city

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Harsh, but true.
Having said that, I do prefer to see 6000 at the X, even if the majority just sit there and stare. And while the occasional, polite snooker audience clap is appreciated, I think the atmosphere would be amazing if the entire crowd started to sing/chant/shout/anything.

That aside, I remember sitting in the St Anne's end a few season back and being told to shut up when 3 or 4 of us tried to make some noise for the boys on the pitch.
Since then, I've had a thing about CCFC and "the silence of the lambs".

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Originally Posted by Gary

Oh, and a sabove, I hard;y think that by people shouting 'Fields etc' is really that encouraging, more a self indulging practise by fans.

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Forget 'the Fields of Bishopstown' (that's rarely sung anymore anyway), there are so many far better chants. So many chants that do inspire the team, as Eric said It's not so much the actual words of the song but more the fact that the players can hear their fans making noise. Do you think they'd prefer to play in silence? Self indulging practise my hole! :mad:

Anyway, any away game you've been to you've been either singing, banging a drum, waving a flag or doing all three. I know you don't sing at home games because you refuse to go to the Shed. So, is the essence of your argument that it's alright to sing at away games but not at home games because all the singers go a to a section of the ground that you don't like?? :D :D

I understand that not everyone wants to sing, but i think at away games it really helps the players if they know that people have travelled to support them and there's no harm in reminding them during games. I don't expect people to join in everything, but the odd time would be nice. The main thing is that you're there in the first place.

As for the numbers supporting City away. I stand by what I said- the numbers are not good enough. I know people can't take every second friday off, but there's no reason why people couldn't do it once every 6 weeks or even every 2 months.

i think Eanna's hit the nail on the head there, at home the players only have to look about the cross to see the support, at away games you have to make a bit of noise to let them know there's fans there that made the effort to travel and are right behind them (sometimes literally :D ).

I refute any allegators that i ever sing, except Rooster occasionally. I also refute any allegator that says this is a wind up.

Look at the successful teams in Ireland and England -

Shels have no fans, they are very successful, Bohs are exactly passionate, they are winning a nice bit here and there.

Look at Bayern Munich, man Utd, Juventus, argubaly the most dominant teams in their respective countries, and their home grounds arent exactly rife with singers. You see, if they were, the players would only be distratced by the often silly 'lyrics'. By playing in near silence, it helps players concentration! :rolleyes: Duh like!

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Originally Posted by GWA

By playing in near silence, it helps players concentration

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That is ******* and utter *****, where did you come up with that .... ******** ******* ***** ...... do they paying you to write such *****. You are talking through your ***********, concentration my ******.

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Originally Posted by A face

That is ******* and utter *****, where did you come up with that .... ******** ******* ***** ...... do they paying you to write such *****. You are talking through your ***********, concentration my ******.

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:D :) :rolleyes:

You are studying waaaaay to hard there feen. Deep breaths, deep breaths, deep breaths......you see, thats better isnt it.

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Originally Posted by NorthoftheLee

Oh ya......Gary is a girls name! ;)

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burn and indeed, burn

Eanna - i actually agree that People like me should go to away games more often in fairness i'm going to make a much bigger effort this season. one thing is that there is not enough promotion in the match programme encouraging poeple to get to away matches - all you see is directions and stuff usually. But i still maintain that nightime football is not very condusive to travelling support. One thing i'd like to know is the Dublin clubs - e.g how many St. Pats fans go to Tolka or Dalymount or vice versa. I'd say its not great.

I accept what you're saying Real Ale. there isn't a great culture of away support in this league, certainly not at city and night time football is one of the reasons for that. we have to do more to encourage it. anyone got any suggestions how we can improve this further?!

Well the most obvious way to go is to appeal to the home fans that are missing for the away games. So how do you approach them .... programme, website, fanzine, radio, newspaper, supporters club members, season ticket holders.

Dont know how to tackle it other than that .... but that should be enough anyway.

One way that might work is, charging a bit extra on buses for a few games and then lay on two free buses for one game. It is worth a try anyway i'd say.

I dunno ..... should talk to the people who organise buses and see have they notice anything that works.

Surely the club should address this issue as well by putting on buses. I know Ian is doing that already, but maybe the club could promote it bette for him???