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In which case, were you ever actually elected to the league?Quote:
Originally posted by Ringo
As regards Home Farm, they have no interest in what we do & we have no interest in what they do. Considering Dublin City is only up & running in the last 3 years we've done rather well.
We've the same Uefa licence as yourselves.
If you're a different entity to Home Farm, were you ever elected to the league?
That's so smug it could have been said by a gypo. You are basing your self-rightousness on the fact that you managed to rent a ground. Well done.Quote:
Originally posted by Ringo
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Considering Dublin City is only up & running in the last 3 years we've done rather well.
Oh and answer Macy's question while your at it.
KOH
As with most clubs ownership has changed , throughout time.
A (Very) Brief History of Dublin City Football Club:
Although Dublin City Football Club was not founded until 2001, its origins stretch back much further. Dublin City’s predecessor (in League of Ireland terms at least) was Home Farm, a club founded in 1928. Home Farm soon developed a fine reputation for producing quality youth teams, and provided the springboard from which many an illustrious career in professional football was launched (including those of Irish legends Jackie Carey and Ronnie Whelan; the tradition continues to this day – current Ireland internationals Ian Harte, Gary Kelly, Kenny Cunningham, Mark Kinsella and Richard Dunne are all Home Farm graduates.) In fact, so successful were Home Farm at youth level that, for many years, the club was a regular fixture in the Guinness Book of Records by virtue of the record-breaking 79-game winning streak achieved by one of its schoolboy teams between 1968 and 1970.
Home Farm’s senior team would not, however, reach such heights after its admission to the League of Ireland in 1972. Although a Home Farm team composed entirely of amateur players despatched Dundalk, champions Cork Celtic, St. Patrick’s Athletic and Shelbourne to win the FAI Cup in 1975, it was to prove an isolated, if thoroughly laudable, achievement for Home Farm at this level. Never again would the team win a major honour (or, for that matter, compete in Europe, as they did against Lens in the following season’s Cup Winners Cup.) Home Farm never finished higher than ninth position in the League of Ireland, and when a new second-tier division was inaugurated in 1985, Home Farm always looked likely candidates for the drop. They were relegated in 1987, and would not return to the top flight until almost a decade later. In 1996, Home Farm (by now known as Home Farm Everton, thanks to a somewhat controversial link-up with the English Premiership club) beat Athlone Town on penalties after a two-legged promotion/relegation play-off to return to the Premier Division. Their stay in the top flight was brief and undignified; Home Farm won just three games all season and were relegated whence they came long before all fixtures had been completed.
A further change of name to Home Farm Fingal in 1999 did little to dispel the torpor at Whitehall, as the club slumped to consecutive seventh-placed finishes in the 1999/2000 and 2000/2001 seasons.
Home Farm appeared to be fading into comfortable anonymity, but a new phase in the club’s history was (along with yet another name change) just around the corner. Chief Executive Ronan Seery outlined an ambitious plan to bring Premier Division and even European football to Whitehall, where the club formerly known as Home Farm (and Home Farm Fingal and Home Farm Everton, also incorporating Drumcondra…) would compete under the name Dublin City. Seery’s vision was dismissed as pie-in-the-sky by many observers, and the club’s new title came in for a great deal of criticism. This was, to some extent, understandable; after all, Home Farm had been always been the smallest and least successful of Dublin’s six modern-day league clubs, and as such was hardly entitled to appropriate the name of the entire city. Dublin City’s exact relationship with Home Farm was also ambiguous, but crucial, given that the new club claimed its eircom League status as a successor to Home Farm Fingal.
The club’s links with the city it now claimed to represent were strengthened by its adoption of the county’s traditional GAA colours of sky blue and navy, along with a new nickname; The Vikings. These measures were greeted with disdain by those who saw them as vain and superficial attempts to bolster the popularity of a moribund club, but even the cynics had to sit up and take notice as Dublin City raced to the top of the First Division in its first season of independent existence. The new club’s challenge eventually ran out of steam, and a final total of fifty-three league points was good enough only for third place, a position (and a point) below the promotion play-off spot.
The 2002-2003 season, truncated to allow for the introduction of summer football the following season, was a disappointing one for Dublin City; with Whitehall unavailable because of ongoing work to the ground’s superb pitch, the Vikings were forced to play their home games at Tolka Park and Morton Stadium in Santry, and could finish only seventh.
Since then, however, Dublin City has cemented its status as one of the most forward-looking clubs in the First Division (if not the eircom League as a whole.) Highlights of City’s home games are usually broadcast on TV3’s “eircom League Weekly” round-up programme, which goes out on Monday nights; rather than wait for TV3 to cover the games themselves, the club have provided their own footage to ensure maximum exposure on national television. On the field, things are looking just as rosy. Tony “Toccy” O’Connor, a close-season signing from Bohemians (where the full-time nature of the club had proved too demanding for O’Connor, a part-time player) has been one of the key figures in Dublin City’s charge to the top of the table. John Gill, City’s new manager and formerly Dermot Keely’s assistant at Kildare, can call upon a host of quality players this season, including strikers Robbie Farrell and Alan O’Connor, midfielders Robbie Dunne and Barry Burke and goal-scoring centre-half Thomas McGauley, to name just five.
At the time of writing, Dublin City stand one point clear atop the eircom League First Division. Automatic promotion is a definite possibility, but a top-four finish, carrying the reward of a place in the promotion play-offs, may be more realistic. In order to achieve their goals, City need the support of every football fan they can get through the turnstiles, and this is where you come in. If you want to see some great football (of which, I promise you, the Robbies are very much capable) in a friendly atmosphere at a charming stadium with the best pitch in the league, then come along to Whitehall and cheer the boys on.
What? You live in Malaysia? I'll accept that excuse for now, but if City are in the Premier next season, you better be there!
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And you didn't where were you planning on playing, Fairview Park?;)Quote:
Originally posted by WeAreRovers
That's so smug it could have been said by a gypo. You are basing your self-rightousness on the fact that you managed to rent a ground. Well done.
KOH
Your potted history kind of contradicts the above statement, don't you think?Quote:
Originally posted by Ringo
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As regards Home Farm, they have no interest in what we do & we have no interest in what they do. .
Either you are a stand alone entity that was elected fairly and squarely to the League or you are Continuity Home Farm. Which is it?
KOH
Is this going anywhere? We’re like an adopted child that has fallen out with its parents. They've disowned us. We don’t care. Ownership of most clubs has changed down through the years. Its bit like me saying “Sure aren’t you just fans of Louis Kilcoyne’s company.” No team has pure blood, no matter what they think.Quote:
Originally posted by WeAreRovers
Your potted history kind of contradicts the above statement, don't you think?
Either you are a stand alone entity that was elected fairly and squarely to the League or you are Continuity Home Farm. Which is it?
KOH
At least you got a new song out of it. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Ringo
They've disowned us. We don’t care. .
I actually think Dublin City are blameless in all this ground-sharing palaver but don't expect me to ever accept you in the League - I'm still unable to accept Cork City and they're a positively ancient 20-years-old.
KOH
Because we've been in the First division, we havn't been part of the whole slag Rovers/all the fans are scum thing, thats been going on. We were asked at a very late stage to move & it just wasn't the best thing for Dublin City & our small but growing band of merry men. I hope you get sorted out soon & we can get on with playing football. Tallaght would be great for the whole league if it got of the ground. As regards being in the League, sure aren't we going straight back down;)
Tallaght, Tallaght, Tallaght. The board were trying to sort out a PERMANENT ground, something your board has made no progress towards. I think EVERYONE else in the EL is entitled to slag off YOUR fan base. I think even Limerick outnumbered you in Whitehall.Quote:
Originally posted by Ringo
A) how have they been helpful? suggesting Dublin City move!
b) no one in EL can slag of fan bases.
c) What is kink of??
You still have not answered, why the board of rovers did not sort out a ground before applying for a licence?
Kind of as in Rovers played Cork City at the cross last year-though obviously the MFA own that.
For what it's worth I think Dublin City should agree to play in Dalyer and allow Rovers play in Tolka. It's hardly going to affect their crowds, if someone wants to go to a Dublin City game they will go whether its Tolka or Dalyer. Fcuk sake they're only a few minutes away from each other. It's not as if they have much of a fan base to disrupt anyway (well neither do Rovers I suppose!).
Rovers can't be absolved from blame either though. They should have had the foresight to see that this type of situation could arise. They'll either have to sort things out quickly or face the consequences.
why does everyone pick on the new boys. We're only little.:(Quote:
Originally posted by Colm
It's not as if they have much of a fan base to disrupt anyway
Excellent post Colm
excellent post colm;)Quote:
Originally posted by Colm
Rovers can't be absolved from blame either though. They should have had the foresight to see that this type of situation could arise. They'll either have to sort things out quickly or face the consequences.
Yes I did mean the whole thing. :D