Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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27/07/2009, 5:42 PM
don ramo

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Originally Posted by brianw82

Who would give money to Tom Coughlan? No sane person, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Why should they give money to bail out a man who has proven nothing other than he is probably the biggest Walter Mitty-esque character in the history of the EL (and he's got some pretty good company)?

Why give a cent to a man who presented a plan to the examiner and then, starting the next day, basically did the opposite of what he said he'd do (he didn't pay a cent to the Revenue)?

If they'd given him the money they STILL wouldn't have enough money to pay the creditors and wouldn't have anything to show for it.

Are you Tom Coughlan?

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Originally Posted by John83

�75k wouldn't have saved the club. Now they have �75k to set up a new club.

well as far as i could see they were set up by the fans to help raise funds for Cork City FC, yet they didnt hand over a single cent to help teh club out,

am i the only person who sees a problem with that, irrelevent if coughlan is in charge that money was riased with the purpose of helping CCFC,

if they set up in the A League fair enough

think of it this way of someone raisied 200k for an operation that cost 400k, would you think it fair he keep the money cause its not enough??,
27/07/2009, 5:45 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by don ramo

well as far as i could see they were set up by the fans to help raise funds for Cork City FC, yet they didnt hand over a single cent to help teh club out,

am i the only person who sees a problem with that, irrelevent if coughlan is in charge that money was riased with the purpose of helping CCFC,

if they set up in the A League fair enough

think of it this way of someone raisied 200k for an operation that cost 400k, would you think it fair he keep the money cause its not enough??,

If the person was terminally ill, then yes, its fair to keep the money*.

*Although these circumstances sound a bit too much like the Haughey Lenihan episode for my liking....
27/07/2009, 5:46 PM
Sheridan

ORA, the Danny Drew situation shows that the FAI are willing and able to make interventions in these matters.

don ramo - What's the point in handing over money if the same situation is going to arise in a month? I doubt half of those who contributed would have done so if they thought they were padding a slush fund which could be wasted by the club.
27/07/2009, 5:46 PM
Longfordian

They were never asked by all accounts. When they were set up it was decided that any request for money would have to be in writing and would have to be considered by the members. Only one man knows why they were never asked.
27/07/2009, 5:46 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by don ramo

well as far as i could see they were set up by the fans to help raise funds for Cork City FC, yet they didnt hand over a single cent to help teh club out,

am i the only person who sees a problem with that, irrelevent if coughlan is in charge that money was riased with the purpose of helping CCFC,

if they set up in the A League fair enough

think of it this way of someone raisied 200k for an operation that cost 400k, would you think it fair he keep the money cause its not enough??,

Bloody hell, no wonder Cobh are so fecked! The central point is that throwing good money after bad doesn't help anything. The responsibility is Coughlan's and his alone.
27/07/2009, 5:48 PM
Lilywhite Army

Anyone realise if the points of previous games are made void Pats will be last with only 17 points :eek:
27/07/2009, 5:48 PM
Longfordian

Yep and in relation to the FAI he's probably even less popular with them than Danny Drew was apparently.
27/07/2009, 5:50 PM
Blue-Army

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Originally Posted by Lilywhite Army

Anyone realise if the points of previous games are made void Pats will be last with only 17 points :eek:

yeah...but will Cork take up a 'relegation' place or what?
27/07/2009, 6:08 PM
adamd164

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Originally Posted by Blue-Army

yeah...but will Cork take up a 'relegation' place or what?

Games will only be made void if we are wound up: as in finished. Ala Dublin City. So no relegation place.
27/07/2009, 6:28 PM
celticV3

Is it fact that FORAS are withholding funds?
27/07/2009, 6:30 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by celticV3

Is it fact that FORAS are withholding funds?

Just going on what I've read on foot.ie, Foras raised funds of about 75,000, but a written request is needed to access them, which hasn't been made as far as I know. Whether they would have granted the money to CCFC before now is a question I don't know the answer to, but they would be absolutely crazy to hand over even a penny of it at the moment.

I'd say that money would be (will be) best spent facilitating the set-up of a new Cork club.
27/07/2009, 7:18 PM
Black and White

If Cork are saved...will they be docked points?
27/07/2009, 7:22 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Black and White

If Cork are saved...will they be docked points?

For what?
27/07/2009, 7:23 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by Dodge

For what?

Them stooopid accents.
27/07/2009, 7:34 PM
Black and White

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Originally Posted by Dodge

For what?

For their huge debts and nearly going out of business! Surely their wage bill is higher than the 65% cap!
27/07/2009, 7:36 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Black and White

For their huge debts and nearly going out of business! Surely their wage bill is higher than the 65% cap!

Every club has debts. If they're over the 65% at season's end then thats a different thing
27/07/2009, 7:41 PM
Celdrog

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Originally Posted by Lilywhite Army

Anyone realise if the points of previous games are made void Pats will be last with only 17 points :eek:

We'll be last, as we lose three points after beating Cork in United Park, leaving us with 16.

Feel very sorry for the Cork fans - they don't deserve this.
27/07/2009, 7:46 PM
Marco

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Originally Posted by don ramo

the really funny part is this stupid FORAS that was set up to help the club, they raised 75k apparently since they formed, yet havent handed over a penny, so the cork people used this tool to help save there club, and the tool just, what, broke, why isnt that money handed over,

tools and tools and more tools, i thought our SC was bad, at least we just got relegated because they didnt hand over funds, but to be wound up, the club doesnt deserve to exist with fans like that, we told our ones to **** off,

idiocracy at its height,

Ha thats funny Don! You never told the fans where to go, after being lied to and and clearly made fools of, the fans decided to **** off themselves and by the looks of it won't be coming back soon. At least FORAS got up and tried to do something unlike the few thankless fans that tried to help Cobh.
28/07/2009, 12:16 AM
roinuj

the fai should just step in and kick cork out of the league.
they done enough gowling and knew they were in the wrong.
no sympathy here.
28/07/2009, 12:33 AM
micls

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Originally Posted by roinuj

the fai should just step in and kick cork out of the league.
they done enough gowling and knew they were in the wrong.
no sympathy here.

I'll tell that to the 10 year old who was inconsolably crying on the bus on the way home from Derry today.....

No fan deserves this.

Thanks to all who posted good wishes.

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