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17/07/2009, 10:05 PM
SligoBrewer

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Originally Posted by Joseph McSweene

Has anybody thought about asking Gareth on extratime.ie to create interviews and articles on players up for deletion as sources? I'm sure if people have the time (& contact details for the players!) he'd consider it. It would be a way of breaking this deletion arguement, they're using the often tight-nit community of wiki-editors, so why don't we use the even tighter group of Irish football online media?:D;)

I've started doing it with whatever articles I write for extratime.
17/07/2009, 10:58 PM
fionnsci

BTW this template is ****ed up, could someone revert it somehow?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templat...reland_grounds
18/07/2009, 3:21 PM
Joseph McSweene

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

I've started doing it with whatever articles I write for extratime.

Cheers Sligobrewer, hopefully we can get an article on David O'Connor which might help sway the arguement for his article being kept by the Footy project crowd.
18/07/2009, 5:47 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by fionnsci

BTW this template is ****ed up, could someone revert it somehow?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templat...reland_grounds

Done .
22/07/2009, 2:25 PM
Umberside

Liam Kearney was up for deletion last September, the result was keep if that's of any interest.
22/07/2009, 2:48 PM
davidatrb

These are the debates for anyone that is interested that saved some LOI players from deletion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...er_(footballer)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...n/Liam_Kearney
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...Seamus_Coleman

Im sure there are more, but that's what I got from a quick nose around.
22/07/2009, 2:50 PM
Umberside

I think we should include in all the LOI articles that they are professional whether they are or not and the FAI League of Ireland page should call it a professional league.
22/07/2009, 3:02 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by Umberside

I think we should include in all the LOI articles that they are professional whether they are or not and the FAI League of Ireland page should call it a professional league.

It'll get hit with a [citation needed] before the day is out.
22/07/2009, 3:07 PM
passinginterest

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Originally Posted by davidatrb

These are the debates for anyone that is interested that saved some LOI players from deletion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...er_(footballer)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...n/Liam_Kearney
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...Seamus_Coleman

Im sure there are more, but that's what I got from a quick nose around.

Here's the debate on Conor Sinnott, the article was nominated for deletion on 10-10-07 and the result was save. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped.../Conor_Sinnott
22/07/2009, 3:19 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by passinginterest

Here's the debate on Conor Sinnott, the article was nominated for deletion on 10-10-07 and the result was save. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped.../Conor_Sinnott

If Conor Sinnott can be saved then any article can be saved.
23/07/2009, 7:43 PM
sligobhoy67

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Originally Posted by Umberside

Liam Kearney was up for deletion last September, the result was keep if that's of any interest.

it was kept!
23/07/2009, 7:47 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by sligobhoy67

it was kept!

'Twas!
23/07/2009, 7:53 PM
TheBoss

Why are these articles up for deletion, surely it goes against what wiki is about ?
23/07/2009, 7:56 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

Why are these articles up for deletion, surely it goes against what wiki is about ?

There are wikipedia editors obsessed with the idea that their precious site is polluted with articles about trivial things, as if that matters.
23/07/2009, 8:00 PM
sligobhoy67

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Originally Posted by John83

There are wikipedia editors obsessed with the idea that their precious site is polluted with articles about trivial things, as if that matters.

to be fair there has to be a line on what is "notable" and what is not.

My personal opinion is that players in the FAI Premier League are more notable than players in Division Two (old 4th Division) of the English league - but others consider they are not and say that because its not a fuly pro league of the 4th division is then the 4th division is more notable.

Its a debate and the better you argue your respective case the an admin will come along decide which argument holds more weight.
23/07/2009, 8:50 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by sligobhoy67

to be fair there has to be a line on what is "notable" and what is not.

For a print encyclopedia there must be a notability limit. For wikipedia, the limit could extend as far as "could anyone possibly want to look this up?" It's fallen well short of that, and now a subject which could have hundreds of interested readers is 'not notable'.

Also, it's not about notability for most of the editors doing the bulk of the deleting. It tends to be either an egotistical thrill of destruction or a anal ruleboundness about the criteria.
24/07/2009, 10:09 AM
sligobhoy67

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Originally Posted by John83

For a print encyclopedia there must be a notability limit. For wikipedia, the limit could extend as far as "could anyone possibly want to look this up?" It's fallen well short of that, and now a subject which could have hundreds of interested readers is 'not notable'.

Also, it's not about notability for most of the editors doing the bulk of the deleting. It tends to be either an egotistical thrill of destruction or a anal ruleboundness about the criteria.

I find it hard to disagree with much of that - however, I mtry to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume some good faith. The best way to ensure that the articles are kept is if posters on here register and account on wikipedia and improve the articles for players at their respective clubs.
28/07/2009, 5:18 PM
Umberside

Jason Molloy and Niall Walsh are currently up for deletion.
28/07/2009, 10:17 PM
sligobhoy67

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Originally Posted by Umberside

Jason Molloy and Niall Walsh are currently up for deletion.

Walsh was deleted because he hasnt actually played a league game yet.
29/07/2009, 1:03 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by sligobhoy67

Walsh was deleted because he hasnt actually played a league game yet.

Stupid really. Corry Evans hasn't played a match for Manchester United, plus there's no external links from third party sources or even being an international so really if Walsh was deleted, so should Evans.

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