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01/05/2009, 8:32 PM
Sam_Heggy

I don't know what officials and players you spoke to Buile but Keely and the players were saying its playable.

The ref said the sand was too deep and felt it was too dangerous to let the game go ahead.

Crazy decision, I was out on the pitch with players having a kick about and no problem, surface was fine and while not perfect its much better than when the likes of UCD came to visit earlier in the season.

"The FAI should throw the book at Harps and refix the game in Tolka or at least a neutral ground."

Wind your neck in there and get off that high horse, you were not there and have no idea what you are talking about.

EDIT: I need to add, this decision could be a nail in our coffin, things are bad up here and the gate receipts needed tonight were sorely needed. We now have no home gate in 5 WEEKS
01/05/2009, 8:39 PM
Buile Shuibhne

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Originally Posted by kdjaC

Should the FAI pay for harps pitch to be brought up to standard.

Considering they did it for Shels. 2 seasons ago tolka was a death trap and the FAI paid for it to be fixed.

kdjac

Are you making this up?

Shels got no money from the FAI - 2 years ago or previously - to repair the pitch.
01/05/2009, 8:46 PM
Buile Shuibhne

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Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

Crazy decision, I was out on the pitch with players having a kick about and no problem, surface was fine and while not perfect its much better than when the likes of UCD came to visit earlier in the season.

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I'll agree to disagree.

The Ref and the Match Delegate's reports are what count
01/05/2009, 8:59 PM
passerrby

is it possible that shels could be awarded the match
01/05/2009, 9:05 PM
prince20

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Originally Posted by passerrby

is it possible that shels could be awarded the match

Why? Game was postponed due to an unplayable pitch. Match will be refixed for Finn Park. Surmise and speculate all you want but that is all that can happen.
01/05/2009, 9:23 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by passerrby

is it possible that shels could be awarded the match

Well at least we would only get a 3-0 walkover, its bound to be better than the result on the pitch. Our only grievance would be the gate.
01/05/2009, 9:32 PM
passerrby

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Originally Posted by prince20

Why? Game was postponed due to an unplayable pitch. Match will be refixed for Finn Park. Surmise and speculate all you want but that is all that can happen.

jez..only asked .
01/05/2009, 9:34 PM
kdjaC

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Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne

Are you making this up?

Shels got no money from the FAI - 2 years ago or previously - to repair the pitch.

They paid €40,000 for your pitch to be fixed.

A quick search on this site will reveal more ;)
01/05/2009, 9:50 PM
Sam_Heggy

I was just reading some of the comments on shels forum, they are laughable really.

They are under the impression that this was planned as we were missing so many players and that we planted these rocks and sand. Its a conspiracy I tell ya, we are cure hoors up here ya know ;)
They also think we should have called the ref and put the game off earlier in the week as its clearly an unplayable pitch :rolleyes:
Final line is, we need the revenue, we needed the game to go ahead and neither manager had a problem with the game going ahead on the pitch, the last thing we wanted was Shels fans and team making the long trip for nothing.
01/05/2009, 10:42 PM
Buile Shuibhne

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Originally Posted by kdjaC

They paid �40,000 for your pitch to be fixed.

A quick search on this site will reveal more ;)

Tell us more - all news to me.
01/05/2009, 10:51 PM
CSFShels

Just home now. The problem was 100% Harps fault, and the only fair outcome is 3 nil to Shels. The Harps financial situation, while unfortunate, and us at Shels know only too well how that feels, does not give them any excuse for that kind of thing, the pitch was unplayable because Harps sanded it with sand full of rocks, isn't Shels' fault, and given how close to kickoff it was decided, there can only be one possible outcome.

Of course, given the FAI's typical behaviour towards Shels, nothing will happen or it'll be a 3 nil Harps win.
01/05/2009, 11:10 PM
GalwayRed

Feel very sorry for any of ours fans that went up there only to hear that. Not in any position to comment on the pitch as I havent seen it but I can understand the anger after making such a long trip. Match should be rescheduled and ledt that be the end of it.
01/05/2009, 11:17 PM
CSFShels

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Originally Posted by GalwayRed

Feel very sorry for any of ours fans that went up there only to hear that. Not in any position to comment on the pitch as I havent seen it but I can understand the anger after making such a long trip. Match should be rescheduled and ledt that be the end of it.

Why? The match wasn't cancelled because of natural elements or anything of the sort. It was cancelled due to the stupidity of Finn Harps, even if this wasn't on purpose, which I'm not saying it was, letting stuff like this go unpunished is just setting a precedent that whenever a club has a few injuries they can make their pitch unplayable, and get to play it at a time which suits them better.
01/05/2009, 11:19 PM
pixiehead

A pitch shouldnt be sanded in the middle of a season. Thats F**king madness. Every groundsman knows this :confused:
01/05/2009, 11:21 PM
CSFShels

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Originally Posted by pixiehead

A pitch shouldnt be sanded in the middle of a season. Thats F**king madness. Every groundsman knows this :confused:

Its certainly very suspicious, negligent at best.
01/05/2009, 11:31 PM
GalwayRed

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Originally Posted by CSFShels

Why? The match wasn't cancelled because of natural elements or anything of the sort. It was cancelled due to the stupidity of Finn Harps, even if this wasn't on purpose, which I'm not saying it was, letting stuff like this go unpunished is just setting a precedent that whenever a club has a few injuries they can make their pitch unplayable, and get to play it at a time which suits them better.

In fairness I seriously doubt a team would make a pitch unplayable purposely to solve injury problems. It a stupid thing to do undoubtably but id be surprised if were given a walkover here. My understanding was if a pitch is unplayable the match be rescheduled. You might be right though.
01/05/2009, 11:34 PM
CSFShels

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Originally Posted by GalwayRed

In fairness I seriously doubt a team would make a pitch unplayable purposely to solve injury problems. It a stupid thing to do undoubtably but id be surprised if were given a walkover here. My understanding was if a pitch is unplayable the match be rescheduled. You might be right though.

The pitch was unplayable due to actions taken by the home team, if the rules state the solution to an issue like that is the match being rescheduled then it really says it all about this league.
01/05/2009, 11:36 PM
GalwayRed

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Originally Posted by CSFShels

The pitch was unplayable due to actions taken by the home team, if the rules state the solution to an issue like that is the match being rescheduled then it really says it all about this league.

Yeah that was my original point though. Im not saying I agree with the rule just think its pointless arguing here because they wont change the rule anyway.
01/05/2009, 11:40 PM
CSFShels

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Originally Posted by GalwayRed

Yeah that was my original point though. Im not saying I agree with the rule just think its pointless arguing here because they wont change the rule anyway.

I really don't think the rules on this are as rigid as you're making out.
01/05/2009, 11:40 PM
happydays97

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Originally Posted by GalwayRed

In fairness I seriously doubt a team would make a pitch unplayable purposely to solve injury problems. It a stupid thing to do undoubtably but id be surprised if were given a walkover here. My understanding was if a pitch is unplayable the match be rescheduled. You might be right though.

Who had Harps out injured????

Conor Gethins was the only one missing tonight going by reports, and from what i've seen of him he wouldnt be that big a miss for any club

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