Bohs player accused of racsim.

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24/04/2009, 1:12 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by centre mid

Possibly worse in mind book, but its not just an attack on one player, its an attack on all people of the same race. I think you have to draw a distinction on banter about the colour of someones hair (for example) and what a racist comment is. I'd wait to actually get the facts of this before calling for anyone to be sacked.

In all seriousness, this is the point for me. Pointed attack about a person's colour simply isn't on. I wonder would the Bohs player responsible (if true) say the same thing to Joseph Ndo in training?

Oh and I've been witness to a fair few in my time following the league. David Crawley marking Mbabazi in Dundalk constantly gave him the worst racist abuse I've ever heard about 6/7 years ago
24/04/2009, 1:17 PM
seand

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Originally Posted by centre mid

Possibly worse in mind book, but its not just an attack on one player, its an attack on all people of the same race. I think you have to draw a distinction on banter about the colour of someones hair (for example) and what a racist comment is. I'd wait to actually get the facts of this before calling for anyone to be sacked.

I think I'd prefer to be called a white ******* or a Paddy cnut (as happened when playing in England!) than receive a headbutt.
24/04/2009, 1:20 PM
centre mid

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Originally Posted by seand

I think I'd prefer to be called a white ******* or a Paddy cnut (as happened when playing in England!) than receive a headbutt.

Thats just an attack on one person & while it might smart for a moment or two thats it, racism is a much darker and sinister proposition all together. Racists should be lined up and repeatedly headbutted.
24/04/2009, 1:25 PM
placid casual

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Originally Posted by centre mid;1149375
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racism is a much darker and sinister proposition [/B]all together.

That's an interesting use of language you have there.
To equate the word dark as applying to sinister is in itself racist in a way.

Joey ndo wouldnt go near the alleged perpetrator anyway cos he's a lazy bolli*
is that racist ?
24/04/2009, 1:36 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by centre mid

Thats just an attack on one person & while it might smart for a moment or two thats it, racism is a much darker and sinister proposition all together. Racists should be lined up and repeatedly headbutted.

I don't see how what seand describes wouldn't be racist if doing the same to a member of a minority in Ireland would be.

To be on the safe side repeated headbutts all round I think.
24/04/2009, 1:36 PM
disabledrog

I suggest unless it was noted by the referee and action taken that no players should be named here hence why the bohs player wasnt mentioned as your innocent untill proven guilty, there was no mention of the above plyer saying anything to these players apart from the fans views so i think admin should remove the players name invplved
24/04/2009, 1:44 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by monutdfc

Didn't Crawley dish it out to Rutherford as well?

Well I'd imagine he would. Don't remember the two playing against each other when Rutherford was with Pats though
24/04/2009, 1:52 PM
LeixlipRed

Last season I assume he means. Crawley is a **** so I wouldn't be suprised. If he ever done it in earshot of me while in a Shels jersey I'd probably do a Wes Charles on him.
24/04/2009, 1:58 PM
Redie

I think we have to wait until we hear the full story, exactly what was said and in what context it was delivered - was the Bohs player trying to get a reaction from Boco that would get him sent off.

However if this proves to be out and out racist abuse then I agree with everyone who has said that a five match ban is totally inadequate. No point in running 'Show Racism The Red Card' campaigns if this sort of carry on is allowed on the field of play.

And well done to the referee if he included it in his match report and I have to say on the night he was one of the best referees to visit the Showgrounds in quite a while.
24/04/2009, 3:52 PM
seand

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Originally Posted by disabledrog

I suggest unless it was noted by the referee and action taken that no players should be named here hence why the bohs player wasnt mentioned as your innocent untill proven guilty, there was no mention of the above plyer saying anything to these players apart from the fans views so i think admin should remove the players name invplved

I'd suggest that unless David Crawley was noted by the referee and action taken he shouldn't be slandered here either, but it seems the horse has bolted on that one. (I think I'm in agreement with disabledrog here, not taking issue with him)
24/04/2009, 3:55 PM
Dodge

Its not slander (sic) if its true, and he's a dirty racist pig
24/04/2009, 4:12 PM
SunderlandBohs

If David Crawley is proven to be a racist then everyone should know.

It's sickening to thing people act like that in this day and age. And even worse that it was a player I regularly cheer on and admire. I'll probably be cheering him tonight. These guys have to realise they're role models if they like it or not.

Yes making a remark is a lot worse than a head-butt. Anyone can lose their cool in the heat of the moment but to make a comment on someones race, believes or sex is degrading.
24/04/2009, 4:14 PM
seand

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Its not slander (sic) if its not true, and he's a dirty racist pig

Ah foot.ie, home of justice and due process. There's nothing like a good kangaroo court.... sorry, is that anti-Oz racism?

Incidentally it most certainly is slander if it's not true!
24/04/2009, 4:35 PM
bennocelt

Just curious - someone mentioned the police, what exactly could they do?

In the heat of a football match I can understand all sorts of comments TBH

I also get called a "paddy", "spud", etc daily in my job over here in the UK- doesnt bother me, give as good as i can take (winning the 6 nations helped!)
24/04/2009, 4:38 PM
passerrby

im not a racist but see them romanians.. ...

before the moral police break my door down im kidding... incidentaly trail by forum is just as bad a racism which at the end of the day is nothing more than ignorance
24/04/2009, 5:21 PM
SolitudeRed

This is great! so the next time I get called a Northy barsteward or a f**king Unionist by some Galway Culchie I can phone the Gards then? :D
24/04/2009, 5:38 PM
thischarmingman

...some of my best friends are black.
24/04/2009, 5:46 PM
GuisaSaigon

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Originally Posted by SolitudeRed

This is great! so the next time I get called a Northy barsteward or a f**king Unionist by some Galway Culchie I can phone the Gards then? :D

Who are you calling a culchie. Racist!
24/04/2009, 6:00 PM
Predator

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Originally Posted by centre mid

Thats just an attack on one person & while it might smart for a moment or two thats it, racism is a much darker and sinister proposition all together.

Ah, no. Technically, calling someone a 'white b*st*rd' or a 'Paddy' is the same as calling someone else, of a different race or ethnicity, a derogatory name. It is name-calling at the end of the day. People over-react - why should someone calling me a 'paddy' be different to someone calling an African a 'black bstrd'???

Real racism would be to not let the guy play, simply because of his background surely?
24/04/2009, 6:09 PM
Predator

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

...some of my best friends are black.

Do you mean their second name is Black? :p

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